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GEORGIA U.S. SENATE RACE: Observations from the Gwinnett County Debate
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| 5-2-2004
| UlsterDavy
Posted on 05/02/2004 1:52:18 PM PDT by UlsterDavy
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To: Blessed
You Isakson supports are Democrats. You steal their campaign tactics, their ideas and their rhetoric.
Your tirade on SS is straight out of the Liberal manual on divisive politics. Is this what we can expect from Isakson? Is this the best he can offer? Why not have him run as a Democrat, and at least he could be true to himself.
If you or your candidate were the slightest bit a conservative, you would know that the entitlement system in this country is messed up. It is why we have a budget deficit. Congress is unable to say know because people like Isakson care only about election and have no moral character on which to base their beliefs.
A leader is supposed to be an adult. A leader is supposed to make tough choices and explain to the electorate why those choices are necessary. You and Isakson believe the raw power of government should be used to buy votes in order to stay in power. At least you are finally being honest about where you stand blessed.
As blessed has stated, if you want a pander-bear who will give anyone what they want at any time, no matter the cost as long as it brings in votes, elect Isakson.
If you want to save this country from mediocrity and economic collapse, elect for Cain.
Isn't it time for a change for once?
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posted on
05/03/2004 5:44:00 PM PDT
by
edeal
To: Blessed
What exactly does your best buddy Isakson do that demonstrates he cares one lick about ordinary Georgians? He is part of the system that is ratcheting up the tax burden to a point where we are virtual slaves to the federal government. Even with this incredible tax burden, the government still can't afford to pay for itself, so it mortgages the future of our children, grandchildren and great grandchildren. All because he the other liberals in congress cannot say no to more government.
Like you said before, blessed, Isakson will not make the tough choices about entitlements out of fear of losing votes. He, quite simply, is not man enough to explain the need for reform to the voters.
That's what we need in Congress representing Georgia, someone who has already surrendered to the status quo.
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posted on
05/03/2004 5:52:36 PM PDT
by
edeal
To: edeal
>He is part of the system that is ratcheting up the tax burden to a point where we are virtual slaves to the federal government.<
Looks like your Knowledge of history is on par with your economic understanding.The tax burden in this country has been coming down since 1985 not going up.You guys are good at calling people names when you run out of one-liners.You have appointed yourself arbiters of who is and is not a good republican but refuse to support nominee of the party if he doesn't drink your koolaide.
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posted on
05/03/2004 7:12:18 PM PDT
by
Blessed
To: edeal
>A leader is supposed to be an adult. A leader is supposed to make tough choices and explain to the electorate why those choices are necessary.<
Mr Cain had a chance to be a leader and take a tough stand on base closings Saturday night.He chose to say he would stop the entire process. That wasn't pandering? That assured an efficient expenditure of my tax dollars? I guess he just wants to reward our friends the Germans and Belgians.
>Your tirade on SS is straight out of the Liberal manual on divisive politics.<
What tirade was that? The suggestion was made that we cut entitlement programs.I think it is pretty reasonable to assume anyone that anyone seriously suggesting we can cut $500 billion dollars from entitlements either doesn't know what they are or never wants to see another republican elected in our lifetime.
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posted on
05/03/2004 7:24:05 PM PDT
by
Blessed
To: Blessed
Blessed,
You were the first one I saw calling names here...in post #40 when you refered to Herman Cain as "One more gas bag".
Secondly, you did not answer my question about if you are satisfied with the status quo or not. So, that means your answer is YES, you are satisfied with the status quo. So please vote for Isakson and take your status quo.
Cain supporters are not interested in status quo. We want to bring real, fundamental, and sustainable change at the federal level. You don't. You are clearly an 'insider', part of the political machine.
That's fine. Just stop calling names and start answering direct questions. You lost your credibility when you began the name calling of a fellow conservative.
On this post here,you stated..."You have appointed yourself arbiters of who is and is not a good republican but refuse to support nominee of the party if he doesn't drink your koolaide."
Does this mean you will you support Cain if he is the nominee?
45
posted on
05/03/2004 7:28:40 PM PDT
by
NewLand
(NewLand to Dems: Bring back MadHow...if you're gonna lose, have fun doing it!)
To: NewLand
yes.Will you support Isakson or Collins?
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posted on
05/03/2004 7:39:54 PM PDT
by
Blessed
To: Blessed
I will never vote Dem. I won't waste my vote on screwball 3rd parties. Yes I will. Isakson, as I have previously stated, is an honorable man. Collins is a good conservative but not a strong leader.
And...they won't win the nomination... :-)
47
posted on
05/03/2004 7:43:09 PM PDT
by
NewLand
(NewLand to Dems: Bring back MadHow...if you're gonna lose, have fun doing it!)
To: NewLand
>You were the first one I saw calling names here...in post #40 when you refered to Herman Cain as "One more gas bag".<
Check out these Names.Sound familiar.
No wonder these buffoons. Pastell Republicans.
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posted on
05/03/2004 7:47:47 PM PDT
by
Blessed
To: Blessed
Fair enough...but what is a Pastel Republican? SNICKER SNICKER...
49
posted on
05/03/2004 7:53:54 PM PDT
by
NewLand
(NewLand to Dems: Bring back MadHow...if you're gonna lose, have fun doing it!)
To: NewLand
Don't get me wrong.I am for all these great ideas like the fair tax.I agree with Dick Williams many conservatives have latched on to this as the silver bullet and quit working on the things that are within our reach.(death tax, Capital Gains tax and permanent tax cuts)We need visionaries.Cain will be a great candidate when he gets a little more experience and a better grasp of the issues.He just was not prepared to discuss issues Saturday night.Based upon his resume I would suspect he will be better prepared next time.I would not be surprised if he modifies (or Clarifies)a few of his positions.Collins is rock solid but he puts people to sleep.He needs an infusion of Cains charisma.
50
posted on
05/03/2004 8:06:08 PM PDT
by
Blessed
To: Blessed
"Cain will be a great candidate when he gets a little more experience" Imagine if voters said that about GWB for Governor in TX...Reagan for Governor in CA...look at Gov Craig Benson in NH...this is how we renew ourselves...let's take the 1996 Pres election as a perfect example of promoting the deserving insider...Bob Dole. Enough said?
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posted on
05/03/2004 8:27:35 PM PDT
by
NewLand
(NewLand to Dems: Bring back MadHow...if you're gonna lose, have fun doing it!)
To: Blessed
Its not about who is and who isn't a good republican. If you moderates would allow even a few conservatives to be elected, perhaps there would be no divisions in the party.
Why do we need another cardboard cutout of what's already saturating congress.
I noticed how you chose an arbitrary date to make your comparison. Of course taxes have been ratcheting up over time. Also, the government is very good at hiding taxes in places people can't easily see them. How big do you liberals want the government to be? How much money do you need?
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posted on
05/04/2004 5:37:44 AM PDT
by
edeal
To: NewLand
Pastel Republican was a term I came up with when the entire Isakson section at the Gwinnett debate was filled with women wearing Pastel suits. It is an unnatural (fake) color, which I think is a good metaphor for the Isakson group.
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posted on
05/04/2004 5:44:34 AM PDT
by
edeal
To: Blessed
Don't blame him for my name calling. I call them as I see them. You were every bit as insulting of Cain and his supporters, I was just more direct about you and your ilk.
Plus you have a history of being insulting in other threads, so you have little room to complain.
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posted on
05/04/2004 5:48:07 AM PDT
by
edeal
To: NewLand
This is the problem with Blessed. This type of language is every bit of an insult and anything else. He is doing what Liberals do to conservatives. Infer they are out of touch or not as smart as the people who "truly know the issues".
Isakson and his supporters love to steal the tactics and lingo from the left, one wonders how much of their agenda they will steal.
55
posted on
05/04/2004 5:50:56 AM PDT
by
edeal
To: edeal
>I noticed how you chose an arbitrary date to make your comparison.<
You made my point for me.You have no knowledge of History and just want to call names when you can't come up with facts.(I believe most people attribute that practice to Liberals)Just a hint:Reagan was in office in 1985.
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posted on
05/04/2004 7:03:39 AM PDT
by
Blessed
To: edeal
>Don't blame him for my name calling.<
Work on your reading comprehension. I did not blame him.I simply answered the charge that I started the name calling.
>Plus you have a history of being insulting in other threads, so you have little room to complain.<
I have atttempted to discuss the issues and make comments on where I found Cain lacking.I have been sarcastic on several threads after you have fired unsubstantuated broadsides like the one above but I have not labeled Cain or felt it neccesary to call names as some have on each of their post.If using the term gas bag to substitute for pontificator in refering to senators is calling Cain names then I am guilty as charged.
When are you going to deal with Cains position on the Base closings or explain which entitlement programs the $500 billion should come from? One-liners will not solve the problem.
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posted on
05/04/2004 7:16:54 AM PDT
by
Blessed
To: NewLand
>Imagine if voters said that about GWB for Governor in TX...Reagan for Governor in CA...look at Gov Craig Benson in NH...this is how we renew ourselves...let's take the 1996 Pres election as a perfect example of promoting the deserving insider...Bob Dole. Enough said?<
I agree but I am not sure either Reagan or Bush are analogies for Cain.
Reagan:Had political experience.(Screen actors gild President)He ran for office several times before he was elected.He had specific proposals for California not just selling a philosophy.
Bush:was a policy adviser to his dad's first campaign.Had been involved with issues and campaigns since his National Guard days.Like Reagan he had specific proposals (no child left behind)
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posted on
05/04/2004 7:28:03 AM PDT
by
Blessed
To: UlsterDavy
OH excellent report!
I love Herman Cain.
I continue to pray for him
since I'm not a GA resident,
I can't vote for him.
59
posted on
05/04/2004 7:30:44 AM PDT
by
onyx
(Kerry' s a Veteran, but so were Lee Harvey Oswald, Timothy McVeigh and Benedict Arnold)
To: Blessed
I agree but I am not sure either Reagan or Bush are analogies for Cain. Let's wait and see...
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posted on
05/04/2004 9:42:52 AM PDT
by
NewLand
(NewLand to Dems: Bring back MadHow...if you're gonna lose, have fun doing it!)
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