Posted on 05/01/2004 4:52:58 PM PDT by joanie-f
Gotta love Henley.
I would add that this lyric applies not only to the press. It is probably etched in granite above the doors of both the RNC and DNC headquarters.
Regards
J.R.
It's called rehashing. It's a waste of time and bandwidth to repeat the same rebuttals. Go back and read the thread.
"Show me a single post where I have EVER said I believe Dems will win 80% of the senate races in November.YOU CAN'T. I've never said such a thing."
AHEM! You made this assertion.
"Not when you're helping to give Dems back a majority in the Senate. That's EVEN WORSE than being a RHINO."
You say that I am helping to give the dems the majority of the senate. Since that requires them to win 80% of the races and you say that you aren't saying that they are going to win the required number to take the majority, just what are you saying?
Don't you just hate it when you get your talking points screwed up?
"Wow..what a powerful rebutal!"
Now you're confusing rebuttal with derision.
"First you assign me positions I have NEVER taken, and then you parrot the name "Terry McAuliffe! Terry McAuliffe! Terry McAuliffe!" at me. Are you trying to make me laugh on purpose or what?"
You made the assertions as I have pointed out above and since McAuliffe is the only other one that I've heard make it, I couldn't help but laugh at you as I typed my response. Laugh if you want. It might be the most useful thing that you do all day.
First, how do you ‘replace’ voters? We aren’t talking party officials here. We’re talking average citizens who go to the polls every two or four years and cast a ballot.
Secondly, I refute your characterization of Toomey as ‘nebbish’. Personal ‘charisma’ and the ability to be well-characterized by the mainstream media count for nothing to those who are seeking men of character to assume leadership positions in this country. Toomey is ‘nebbish’ in the same way Reagan was. He is soft-spoken, but speaks with passion. He is not vicious, but he defends his positions firmly and with strength of conviction. He is not glib, not suave, and not prone to talking in circles (i.e., will never be a darling of the mainstream media). But those Pennsylvanians who have taken a serious look into his record (as well as others outside of the commonwealth who have taken an interest in this race) have learned just why the media will continue to paint him as a weak candidate.
They, and his opponent, often see what should be considered strengths as weaknesses. The media, and a significant number of Specter ads, clung to the slogan, ‘Toomey isn’t far right, he’s far out.’ Why? Because countless times he chose to swim upstream, rather than toe the party line or vote with the majority – the latest example of which was the House vote on Bush’s prescription drug plan. A socialist-leaning, unconstitutional bill that passed overwhelmingly … and yet Toomey was the only Pennsylvanian in the House who voted against it. If that is a weakness, I say we need more men of weakness in government.
The Toomey supporters who, at least at this point, feel that they cannot pull the lever next to Specter’s name in the fall have not abandoned the GOP. They represent a segment of those who worked long and hard to reclaim the GOP from those who have hi-jacked her.
Your assumption that the active minority of voters in Pennsylvania that has gone for the democrat presidential candidate in every election since 1988 is the same active minority that supported Toomey and may not vote for Specter in November is so far off base that it’s sitting in the bleachers. You are equating Toomey supporters with those they abhor. It is the die-hard supporters of Specter (many of whom envision the bringing home of federal pork-barrel projects as more important than conservative Republican principles) who have consistently voted Specter/Clinton/Gore for the past sixteen years. And it is exactly the entrenched power of those kinds of voters that Toomey supporters attempted to overthrow.
You paint us as a group of children who are throwing a temper tantrum as a result of a single primary election loss.
I, for one, have held my nose and voted for Specter four times – each time placing on the shelf the abominations he has committed -- his cowardice in the Clinton impeachment trial, his crucifixion of Robert Bork, his continued efforts to weaken our defenses, his support of the feminist/homosexual/abortion rights/affirmative action agendas, his liberal tax and spend policies, and his reverence for international law. And I have done so in order to preserve party unity and ensure Republican congressional power.
But my party leaders themselves betrayed me this year. They sought to stifle my, and hundreds of other grassroots, voices because of political protocol and the promise of political favors. The GOP is not an organization. It is a set of principles that reveres liberty and national security/sovereignty. I am not abandoning the GOP. They have.
I could never bring myself to vote for a democrat with Hoeffel’s liberal credentials. But neither will I ever again pull the lever next to the name of Arlen Specter.
God bless you! I am somewhat ashamed to say that I had never even heard of Toomey until about six months ago. So I am now proud to make the acquaintance of a charter member of the Toomey Brigade.
Is there anything you would like to add to my response to Luis Gonzales’ post (#132 above)? Since you have been in the fray in this particular crusade much longer than I, you probably have some insights to offer him that I may be unaware of or have overlooked.
Again, thanks for being in on the ground floor of such an important movement (and one that is far from extinguished, despite Tuesday’s results).
~ joanie
Four of my favorite lines of his are:
I’m not the kind to smile and bow out gracefully
I always wanted to take it to the wall … and …
We condescend and in the end
we lose our very souls.
Would that there were more people who feel that way, rather than being satisfied with simply rolling over and playing dead.
In time, we can cure this epidemic. The battle for preserving the American system of government (as our founders created it) is worth the fight.
I wholeheartedly agree with the last sentence, and will be soldiering until the end (as will you). But I have my doubts about the first sentence. I don’t share your restrained optimism, John. This past month has been an eye-opener for me. On the one hand, it was good to experience the receptiveness of the hundreds of people with whom I talked. But on the other hand it was deeply disturbing to discover just how many otherwise intelligent people don’t have any idea that their country is being sold down the river.
I’ve already written too much about my feelings in that regard, so won’t continue the soapbox spiel here. But the bottom line is that I have seen it so often before: You speak to friends and family and neighbors about an important political ballot contest/issue. They comprehend and do the right thing. But then they once again revert to business as usual (i.e., allowing the media, especially, to do their thinking for them). It becomes a matter of not being able to get through their heads the importance of thinking for themselves. You simply have to drag them aside and educate them at various critical times. That’s not a solution. It’s a band-aid. Our republic is hemorrhaging and pretty soon band-aids aren’t going be able to stop the bleeding.
Preventing LIBERAL DEMOCRAT Specter from sitting as the Chairman of the Judiciary is also REPUBLICAN.
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