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Grand Old Problem: Where Was GOP Born?
netscape news ^ | May 1, 2004

Posted on 04/30/2004 11:55:34 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort

Their claims are cast on metal plaques, humming in cyberspace and printed in obscure history books, Chamber of Commerce fliers and the Congressional Record. And not one of the four self-proclaimed birthplaces of the Republican Party is about to back down.

The Republican National Committee's online party history says the GOP held its first informal meeting in Ripon, Wis. - without specifying a date. It also states flatly, ``The first official Republican meeting took place on July 6th, 1854 in Jackson, Michigan.''

It does not mention competing claims by Exeter, N.H., or Crawfordsville, Iowa.

Nevertheless, the debate has heated up as the GOP observes its 150th anniversary, give or take a few months. The next sesquicentennial celebration is set for early July in Jackson.

The ``birthplace'' claim by the city of 35,500 located 80 miles west of Detroit is unimpeachable, said Susan Milhoan, president of the Greater Jackson Chamber of Commerce.

``Absolutely. End of story,'' Milhoan said.

Artists have been invited to paint or decorate 5-foot-long polyurethane elephants that will occupy sponsored locations around the city for three months. The elephant is the GOP's symbol.

A parade of real elephants is tentatively scheduled for July 2. Jackson officials have invited Michigan Gov. Jennifer Granholm and President Bush to visit on July 4 and July 6, respectively.

``Michigan is the birthplace of many 'firsts' - first automobile, first cereal flakes, first hockey player to score career 700 goals (Gordie Howe) - and, yes, first place the Republican Party convened,'' said Granholm, a Democrat. ``I only wish it were the birthplace of the Democratic Party as well, but the Democrats here have since caught up.''

To Ripon partisans, not even the ghost of Abraham Lincoln could validate Jackson's claim.

Last month in Ripon, Rep. Tom Petri, R-Wis., proclaimed: ``If anyone doubts this is the birthplace, just appear on 'Jeopardy!' and if you answer any question about the founding of the Republican Party with anything else than Ripon, you'll lose.''

Milhoan countered: ``Ripon did have an initial meeting, but there were a half-dozen individuals (present) ... There were 3,000 to 5,000 people converging on Jackson July 6, 1854, and they actually selected the name of the party.''

The late New Hampshire Gov. Hugh Gregg insisted the GOP was organized Oct. 12, 1853, at Blake's hotel in Exeter. An annual observance is staged by the Amos Tuck Society, named for the Exeter congressman credited with calling that meeting.

``These other places are after the fact, so they're just getting around to it,'' said Tracy McGrail, president of the Exeter Chamber of Commerce. ``Exeter was, and is, the birthplace of the Republican Party.''

The claim by Crawfordsville, population 265, is based on reports of a Feb. 23, 1854, meeting of abolitionists who debated a platform and nominated candidates for what would become the GOP. However, notes taken by a Sarah Crawford were burned years later.

George Miller, a Ripon College emeritus professor of history, said Riponians ``acknowledge Jackson's claim'' to the first formal Republican meeting and even allow that the first informal meeting was held in Exeter.

Sen. Russell Feingold, D-Wis., went further on March 8 - introducing a Senate resolution ``commemorating the 150th anniversary of the first meeting of the Republican Party in Ripon, Wisconsin.''

The resolution was approved unanimously, to the dismay of New Hampshire Republican Sens. John Sununu and Judd Gregg. The son of the Exeter-endorsing governor said he and Sununu were not present for the voice vote.

``We were not aware that (Feingold) was going to do it,'' Miller said. ``But we're glad he did.''

On the Net:

Republican National Committee: http://www.rnc.org

Michigan Republican Party: http://www.migop.org

Greater Jackson Chamber of Commerce: http://www.gjcc.org

Ripon Area Chamber of Commerce: http://www.ripon-wi.com

Exeter Area Chamber of Commerce: http://www.exeterarea.org/


TOPICS: Politics/Elections; US: Michigan; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: gop; granholm; origins; rnc
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``Michigan is the birthplace of many 'firsts' - first automobile, first cereal flakes, first hockey player to score career 700 goals (Gordie Howe) - and, yes, first place the Republican Party convened,'' said Granholm, a Democrat.

Earth to Jennifer: Gordie Howe was born in Floral, Sasketchewan.

1 posted on 04/30/2004 11:55:35 PM PDT by Leroy S. Mort
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To: Leroy S. Mort
It was Ripon Wisconsin. One of the few good things to come out of Wisconsin.
2 posted on 04/30/2004 11:59:26 PM PDT by cpprfld (Who said accountants are boring?)
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To: cpprfld
I live a half hour from Rippon. Not much going on there.

The rest of the state is solid Democrat.
3 posted on 05/01/2004 12:03:16 AM PDT by afraid
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To: cpprfld
"It was Ripon Wisconsin. One of the few good things to come out of Wisconsin."

Excuse me? What about Harley Davidson motorcycles, Kohler bathroom fixtures, Jelly Bellys, the finest cheeses in the world, and Joseph McCarthy?

4 posted on 05/01/2004 12:05:02 AM PDT by Honcho Bongs
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To: Leroy S. Mort
A silly question.

If a new political party is going to be viable it will coalesce from nascent cells that are widely distributed.

That of course is why the Green and the Constitutionalist and other parties haven't gotten off to a good start...they have at best just one solid birthplace, and only weak ties to communities elsewhere.
5 posted on 05/01/2004 12:11:13 AM PDT by Triple Word Score (Meretriciousness Everywhere.)
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To: Honcho Bongs
the best football team in the history of football, the
Green Bay Packers.
6 posted on 05/01/2004 12:14:36 AM PDT by smonk
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To: Honcho Bongs; Catspaw
And THE GREEN BAY PACKERS!!!!!!!!!
7 posted on 05/01/2004 12:14:46 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Lashing out" at Democrats since 1990.)
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To: smonk
Ditto that!!
8 posted on 05/01/2004 12:15:09 AM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet ("Lashing out" at Democrats since 1990.)
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To: Honcho Bongs
Excuse me? What about Harley Davidson motorcycles, Kohler bathroom fixtures, Jelly Bellys, the finest cheeses in the world, and Joseph McCarthy?

All good jellybeans are from Wisconsin!! :)

9 posted on 05/01/2004 12:15:43 AM PDT by jellybean (Official Custodian of the Word Gobsmacked!)
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To: Leroy S. Mort
You mean it wasn't Ithaca, NY? I'm shocked, I tell ya'!


10 posted on 05/01/2004 12:16:20 AM PDT by BykrBayb (5 minutes of prayer for Terri, every day at 11 a.m. EDT, until she's safe.)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I was going to add "and the best QB to ever pick up
a football, Brett Favre", but he's actually from
mississippi. I would bet that he wouldn't mind
very much, though.
11 posted on 05/01/2004 12:20:20 AM PDT by smonk
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To: Leroy S. Mort
Michigan is the birthplace of many 'firsts' - first automobile,

The first internal combustion automobile was built by the Benz brothers in Germany in 1885. The first automobile in America was built by the Duryea brothers in Springfield, Massachusetts in 1893. They formed the first automobile manufacturing corporation, Duryea Motor Wagon Company, in 1895.
12 posted on 05/01/2004 12:43:17 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Rumble Thee Forth...)
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
I love my Green Bay Packers (and yes, you can sing that)!
13 posted on 05/01/2004 4:01:01 AM PDT by Catspaw
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To: smonk
"the best football team in the history of football, the Green Bay Packers."

With all due respect, your post needs a minor correction:
the best football team in the history of football, the Green Bay Packers Chicago Bears.

As to Ripon, I've been to Ripon and it undoubtedly is the birthplace of the Republican Party. Green Lake is nice too. Now if the cheese-heads would just stop calling those from IL "F.I.B's" (who by the way keep Wisconsin's 3rd World economy going), we'd be onto something.

/sarcasm
(I really don't dislike Wisconsinites, just teasing. But the "FIB" thing's gotta go - very childish)

14 posted on 05/01/2004 7:48:45 AM PDT by Condor51 ("Diplomacy without arms is like music without instruments." -- Frederick the Great)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
Thanks for clarifying that about the first automobile. (We might step back a bit earlier to Cugnot...)

You belong here: Society of Automotive Historians

15 posted on 05/01/2004 7:58:00 AM PDT by nicollo
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To: Condor51
FIB? Is that like the term 'flatlander' or 'troll'(Yoopers term for those south of the bridge)?
16 posted on 05/01/2004 10:29:10 AM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("The bigger they are, the harder they fall" - John L Sullivan)
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To: nicollo
You belong here: Society of Automotive Historians

Yes, and I could document the 3 million Americans and tens of millions worldwide killed in the Automobile Holocaust.
17 posted on 05/01/2004 3:57:46 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Rumble Thee Forth...)
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide
...the 3 million Americans and tens of millions worldwide killed in the Automobile Holocaust.
What, no /sarcasm tag?

I'm sure, of course, that you're similarly capable of documenting the "cigarette holocaust," the "high blood pressure holocaust," the "poverty holocaust," the "DDT holocaust," and all the other human stupidities that have directly or indirectly killed millions over the last century.

Can't you can do better than "automobile holocaust"?

18 posted on 05/01/2004 10:57:39 PM PDT by nicollo
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To: Honcho Bongs
And a massive amount of beer, my friend, along with the finest in German sausages!
19 posted on 05/01/2004 11:02:01 PM PDT by July 4th (You need to click "Abstimmen")
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To: nicollo
Can't you can do better than "automobile holocaust"?

Can't you do better than justify one Holocaust with another?
20 posted on 05/01/2004 11:24:14 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Rumble Thee Forth...)
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