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PLAYING POLITICS WITH IRAQ (Senator STEVENS)
http://thomas.loc.gov ^ | 4-30-04 | Senator STEVENS

Posted on 04/30/2004 7:33:42 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

PLAYING POLITICS WITH IRAQ -- (Senate - April 29, 2004)

[Page: S4671] GPO's PDF --- Mr. STEVENS. Mr. President, as President pro tempore and presiding over the Senate, I have found the overheated rhetoric on Iraq over the last few days at best disappointing and at worst misleading, harshly partisan, and motivated by election year politics. I have simply had enough of this. I have come to the floor to ask my Senate colleagues to restore the level of debate that this institution demands. I urge the Senate to not play politics with Iraq.

Do not seek to gain some slim, fleeting advantage at the ballot box by making our country appear divided, and by making reckless accusations.

Our troops in Iraq deserve better than this. They deserve much better. If there is debate, let it be reasoned and measured, and focused on the way forward in this war on terrorism.

When our forces are deployed and in the field, they deserve nothing less than our absolute, unwavering commitment to their success. Nothing less.

I take strong issue with three particular themes: First, the analogy that Iraq is somehow like Vietnam. This analogy is wrong, and simply inflammatory; second, that the President was wrong when he made his speech on the USS Abraham Lincoln a year ago on May 1; and third, that somehow our action to remove the brutal regime of Saddam Hussein was in any regard ``unprovoked.'' That is simply and plainly not true.

Iraq is not Vietnam. It is wildly irresponsible--even reckless--to compare the situation in Iraq to the war in Vietnam. Those who make that false claim are engaging in dangerous rhetoric, and are ill informed about history and facts of the two conflicts.

Comparing Iraq to Vietnam does not advance the debate, it simply inflames the issue, obscures the facts and, unfortunately, misleads the American people.

My colleague, the senior Senator from Massachusetts, started this Iraq is Vietnam spin in a speech a few weeks ago. Of all people, he knows better than to make that bogus comparison.

I encourage my colleagues to turn down the rhetoric on Vietnam, and get the facts right. Here are some of those facts:

In Vietnam, President Kennedy sent ``advisers'' to Vietnam in 1961, but they were not authorized to use force until 1964, 3 years later. Then, in 1971, Congress repealed that authority.

In Iraq, this very Congress approved a resolution that authorized the use of force in October, 2002, well in advance of any forces being deployed. That resolution still stands today.

In Vietnam, eight nations joined with the United States.

In Iraq, over 30 nations are in our coalition, including 16 of 26 NATO allies.

In Vietnam, Ho Chi Minh violated zero U.N. Security Council resolutions--none.

In Iraq, Saddam Hussein violated seventeen--seventeen--U.N. Security Council resolutions, beginning immediately after the 1991 Gulf war cease fire agreement.

In Vietnam, how many draftees were sent to that country? About two million draftees, all young men.

In Iraq, how many draftees are there? Zero, none. We have an all-volunteer force. They know the risks, they know their duty, and they volunteer to step forward and serve our country.

I have yet to meet one at the hospitals here who hasn't asked me the question: How can I go back to my unit? How can I go back to Iraq? They ask that despite the many serious wounds they have.

In Vietnam, against how many Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Laotians did Ho Chi Minh use chemical and biological weapons? Were there chemical and biological weapons used by North Vietnam? No, none.

In Iraq, against how many Iraqis, Iranians, and Kurds did Saddam Hussein use chemical and biological weapons? Thousands and thousands of people--the Kurds, the Iraqis, and Iranians--were the subject of chemical and biological weapons used by Saddam Hussein.

I have an article here from last Sunday's Providence Journal-Bulletin, and the headline of that article is this: ``Historians, Soldiers Hesitant to Call Iraq another Vietnam: the purposes, strategy, terrain and players in the Vietnam war were far different than those in Iraq, many experts say.''

Far different than those in Iraq, indeed.

That is a true statement by the Providence Journal-Bulletin. In this article, Anthony Cordesman, a military expert and former diplomat, says ``I really worry about the analogy between Vietnam and Iraq, where we're not really fighting a foreign enemy.''

Mr. Cordesman, who is now at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, goes on to say:

There is as yet no massive insurgency [confronting coalition forces]. We're not dealing with massive external powers supporting the insurgents. We do not have a situation where we have lost a majority of the population as we did in Vietnam when we lost the Buddhists. We are not attempting to get around the reality of a need to create a legitimate government, which we did after the fall of the South Vietnam's Diem regime.

I hope that cooler heads and cooler rhetoric will prevail here in the Senate. My colleague from Delaware, the ranking member of the Senate Foreign Relations committee, has found the Vietnam analogy, ``misleading'' because, as he says, ``The vast majority of Iraqis share our vision for a participatory, representative democracy.''

President Bush is absolutely right when he says that the Vietnam-Iraq analogy is false. And he is right that brandishing that false analogy as a rhetorical weapon, ``sends the wrong message to our troops and sends the wrong message to the enemy.''

[Page: S4672] GPO's PDF With regard to President Bush's speech on the USS Abraham Lincoln, some have chosen to make a great issue about it. They have endlessly taunted the Commander in Chief for words on a banner, and have twisted his words to suit their purposes.

What the President said is this:

Major combat operations in Iraq have ended. In the battle of Iraq, the United States and our allies have prevailed. And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country.

The President was dead-on right. He spoke clearly and plainly, yet some refuse to listen to what he said.

He went on to say that ``major combat operations in Iraq have ended.'' The President was and is absolutely correct today in making that statement.

Saddam's regime of oppression and torture was gone. The Hussein Baath Party regime was disbanded, and no longer in power. Baghdad had fallen, and was under the control of the coalition of which we were the leader.

Active, organized military resistance had collapsed. Saddam's military forces were not resisting; their will to fight had been destroyed; they had no ability to command and control the few forces they had left.

The mission was to remove a threatening, brutal dictator from power, to bring to an end the ruthless oppression of the Iraqi people--and that mission was accomplished.

President Bush made it abundantly clear that he recognized the challenges that would face America and confront our troops. He said, ``And now our coalition is engaged in securing and reconstructing that country.''

He said:

We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We're bringing order to parts of that country that remain dangerous. The transition from dictatorship to democracy will take time, but it is worth the effort. Our coalition will stay until our work is done.

That could not be clearer or more truthful. There are those in this body who should listen to these words and hear them accurately.

Let me state that again. He said:

We have difficult work to do in Iraq. We're bringing order to parts of that country that remain dangerous. The transition from dictatorship to democracy will take time, but it is worth the effort. Our coalition will stay until our work is done.

The clear and compelling meaning of the President's words on May 1, 2003 was that Saddam Hussein had been removed from power, Iraq's military defeated, and the work of stabilizing and reconstructing Iraq had begun--and that such work would be both difficult and costly.

The President was right when he spoke on the carrier a year ago, and he is still right today.

What has happened in recent weeks and months is an emerging insurgency, and the appearance of foreign fighters in Iraq who will do anything--anything--to see the coalition fail, and see Iraq revert back to a brutal dictatorship, and become a breeding ground for radical Islamic terrorists.

These terrorists have joined with former regime elements, and have chosen to make Iraq a full-blown battlefield in the war on terrorism.

This is not a war against Saddam Hussein. This is a war on terrorism. What these terrorists and their sympathizers fear most is Iraq becoming a stable, functioning democracy that benefits the Iraqi people, joins the world community, and serves as a source of democratic influence on the people of the region.

They have no regard for the will of the Iraqi people, for their safety, for their security or for their future. They are simply using Iraqi soil, and taking innocent Iraqi lives, in their ruthless Jihad, in their desire to spread chaos and foment hate across the Islamic world, and in their hatred of freedom, moderation and democracy.

I urge those who are twisting the President's words of now almost a year ago to listen carefully to what he said, to end the personal attack, to stop the spin. Stop parsing words and stop mocking plastic banners. We can and we must do better than that in the Senate.

And unprovoked? I heard the word ``unprovoked.'' My third point is, I say to those who claim the war to liberate Iraq was somehow ``unprovoked,'' that is wrong. It is absolutely wrong. Could that statement be more preposterous? Could anything be more disconnected from the truth in Iraq? Can anyone say with a straight face Saddam Hussein did nothing to provoke the international community?

Here is a sampling of some of the ways that Saddam Hussein provoked this conflict, how he provoked the United States, and how he provoked the world. In 1980, Iraq invaded Iran and used chemical weapons against the Iranian people. In 1988, Saddam's forces killed 5,000 innocent civilians in a chemical weapons attack against the Kurdish villages of Halabja. In 1990, Saddam's forces invaded another neighbor, this time Kuwait. We all know in the Gulf War thousands of innocent Kuwaiti civilians were raped, tortured, and murdered during the occupation. In 1991, Iraq was poised to march on other nations but was stopped by a U.S.-led coalition of forces. We call that the Gulf War. Iraq has launched ballistic missiles at four of its neighbors. Remember that, ``unprovoked''? It launched ballistic missiles at four of its neighbors: Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Israel. I might say, I was in Israel when one of those was launched.

Saddam's Iraq was, at a minimum, engaged in clandestine research and development activities to develop, refine, and employ chemical and biological weapons. From 1991 to 2003, Saddam's Iraq fired more than 1,000 missiles at our aircraft as they patroled Iraq's U.N.-sanctioned no-fly zones. We went over to Kuwait. We met the pilots who were flying day after day--what we call the CAP, the constant air patrol--at the request of the U.N. in compliance with the U.N. resolution. They told us how they were fired at again and again and again. Saddam Hussein was firing at U.S. planes daily. Provocation? I can't think of another provocation. As a matter of fact, we should have gone to war when President Clinton said he was about ready to go to war in 1998.

For more than a decade, Saddam's Iraq steadfastly ignored the will of the United Nations and the civilized world and ignored no fewer than 17 U.N. resolutions.

I could continue with the list, but the point is the same: To say that Saddam Hussein is not responsible for his fate and Iraq's current status and did nothing to provoke that change is ludicrous. It is plainly untrue.

Let me conclude by saying this: The tone of the debate on Iraq must change. With our troops under daily attack, we cannot make Iraq a political football in an election year or any year.

Representative JIM MARSHALL, a freshman Democrat from Georgia, wrote a compelling column in the Washington Post last October. The title of his column was ``Don't Play Politics on Iraq.'' A decorated Army Ranger who served in Vietnam, Congressman Marshall was right then and he is right today. His observations were wise then and even wiser today: Don't play politics on Iraq.

Let me quote from that article Congressman Marshall

wrote:

Many in Washington view the contest for the presidency and the control of Congress as a zero-sum game without external costs or benefits. Politicians and activists in each party reflexively celebrate, spread and embellish the news bad for the opposition. But to do that now with regard to Iraq harms our troops and our effort. Concerning Iraq, this normal political tripe can impose a heavy external cost.

I continue with the article written by Congressman Marshall:

For now, responsible Democrats should carefully avoid using the language of failure. It is false. It endangers our troops and our effort. It can be unforgivably self-fulfilling.

That Congressman gets it. He really gets it. You do not play politics on Iraq. You do not play politics with national security. You do not play politics with the defense of this country. You do not play politics with troops deployed. You do not let seeking partisan advantage drive a wedge between Americans when troops are in harm's way.

I urge our colleagues to end this divisive practice of using the floor of this Senate and this issue on Iraq to bash the administration to try to score political points. We can do better than that. For those who persist on this practice, reflect on Congressman Marshall's words: It endangers our troops and our effort. It is simply wrong, election year or not. Those who irresponsibly endanger or use Iraq for partisan advantage should be warmed: You must understand and take responsibility for

[Page: S4673] GPO's PDF the message you send to the enemies of freedom, democracy, and liberty through the world. This country should be united when we have troops abroad. We should be united when we have people trying to assist Iraqis to find freedom and defeat the terrorists who persist to bring the war on terrorism to Iraq after we won the war against Saddam Hussein. I urge my colleagues to follow Congressman Marshall's injunction: Do not play politics anymore on Iraq.

I yield the floor and suggest the absence of a quorum.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; US: District of Columbia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: iraq; partisanship; senate; stevens; tedstevens
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1 posted on 04/30/2004 7:33:44 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: StriperSniper; Mo1; Peach; Howlin; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...
Good read.



2 posted on 04/30/2004 7:34:17 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (To me, it is a never ending marvel what our soldiers can do. ----------- PATTON)
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To: OXENinFLA
Senator LEVIN says Bush offered"to cut and run" in Iraq.(Senate floor)
3 posted on 04/30/2004 7:36:53 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (To me, it is a never ending marvel what our soldiers can do. ----------- PATTON)
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To: OXENinFLA
I saw part of this yesterday on c-span..he was REALLY mad, thought he was going to have a stroke! He was almost yelling.
4 posted on 04/30/2004 7:40:55 AM PDT by Jewels1091
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To: Jewels1091
He has reasons to be PO'ed.

All the BS coming from Levin(see link at post #3), Kennedy,Clinton and Bryd should tee off most on the right.
5 posted on 04/30/2004 7:45:20 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (To me, it is a never ending marvel what our soldiers can do. ----------- PATTON)
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To: OXENinFLA
In Vietnam, against how many Vietnamese, Cambodians, and Laotians did Ho Chi Minh use chemical and biological weapons? Were there chemical and biological weapons used by North Vietnam? No, none.

He did end up slaughtering his people after we gave up, though...

6 posted on 04/30/2004 7:45:55 AM PDT by MegaSilver (Training a child in red diapers is the cruelest and most unusual form of abuse.)
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To: OXENinFLA; All
And will this ever make the Sheep's News Network (SNN)?

Was this speech delivered to an empty Chamber, without a single Socialist in sight?

Did C-SPAN pan the empty chamber, as proof?

Down the Memory Hole.
7 posted on 04/30/2004 7:52:27 AM PDT by Old Sarge
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To: OXENinFLA
My colleague, the senior Senator from Massachusetts, started this Iraq is Vietnam spin in a speech a few weeks ago. Of all people, he knows better than to make that bogus comparison.

Oohh, shot to the gut! I like that.
8 posted on 04/30/2004 7:57:39 AM PDT by wasp69 (This tag line for sale because Dave Ramsey said so.)
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To: OXENinFLA
There needs to be much more of this kind of talk in the senate. I just don't understand why the supporters of the war and our troops fail to call to account the "over the top" rhetoric of the Dems in their attempt to cause the defeat of not only president Bush but more importantly the troops in Iraq who are dying because of the opposition now rising to this level of defeatism.
9 posted on 04/30/2004 8:02:37 AM PDT by Oldsailor
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To: MegaSilver
Happened by CSpan last night and caught KKK Byrd speaking. Now I have to say I'm as conservative as they come so obviously I'm biased here but I don't think I've ever seen such a sickning, disgusting display of rhetoric in my life by a "US Senator." I'm sure Kennedy's and Levin, et al are just as bad but I didn't happen to see them.

This has got to stop!!!!!! Really I've never seen such vileness in all my life. Let's face it many of us hate Clinton and still do but I for one didn't encourage or witness such vileness during our war in Kosovo nor would I have expected there to be.

This outright assault on the President and dare I say the Presidency is directly emboldening the enemy and of that there is no dispute.

I don't even want to get started on that freak show in Washington celebrating abortion. Even those that are pro-abortion I would think are embarrassed by that circus freak show.

I'll say this, I know we on the right on big on protests etc., but I think it's time we do something. What, I'm not sure but I just feel like I can't sit back any longer and watch these people tear down this country just so they can regain control.

Maybe we should start by demonstrating in front of the UN demanding that they immediately bring forward all documents regarding the Blood for Oil scandal and demand that Kofi step down and anyone else that was involved. Maybe at least the media would be forced to cover it.

I don't know, maybe others have ideas but I know it's time for action. There's to much at stake to sit back any longer!

10 posted on 04/30/2004 8:04:48 AM PDT by marlon
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To: Oldsailor
Sen. Republicans can say anything they want, the elite NY dem media will not play it as they do Kennedy.

As I predicted, the left has won again, they have successfully undercut American power, as was their intention along with Europe, and Arab leaders.

A Kerry/UN/Soros victory will seal the deal.

The only hope we have is ourselves, to work the grassroots, and prayer of course.

11 posted on 04/30/2004 8:10:59 AM PDT by roses of sharon
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To: Old Sarge
Very good speech. Teddy was probably asleep.

So true... "You do not let seeking partisan advantage drive a wedge between Americans when troops are in harm's way."

Too bad the Dems have one foot off the cliff already. I really don't think they "get it".
12 posted on 04/30/2004 8:12:41 AM PDT by BillyCrockett
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To: Old Sarge
He gave this about 6:30 last night.

(I remember because I missed The Grapevine.)
13 posted on 04/30/2004 8:14:57 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (To me, it is a never ending marvel what our soldiers can do. ----------- PATTON)
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To: OXENinFLA
Very good.

Gee... I wonder why this didn't get as much coverage as Swimmer's speeches? /sarcasm
15 posted on 04/30/2004 8:20:12 AM PDT by jmstein7 (Real Men Don't Need Chunks of Government Metal on Their Chests to be Heroes)
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To: Mo1
http://www.foxnews.com/access/video.html


In case you missed Brit's 6:30 Grapevine.
16 posted on 04/30/2004 8:29:36 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (To me, it is a never ending marvel what our soldiers can do. ----------- PATTON)
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To: OXENinFLA
Comparing Iraq to Vietnam does not advance the debate, it simply inflames the issue, obscures the facts and, unfortunately, misleads the American people.

My colleague, the senior Senator from Massachusetts, started this Iraq is Vietnam spin in a speech a few weeks ago. Of all people, he knows better than to make that bogus comparison.

And shortly after Uncle Teddy's speech .. Al-Sadr was quoting the same thing about Vietnam

Uncle Teddy needs to stop being a speech writer for the enemy

17 posted on 04/30/2004 8:38:03 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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To: Mo1
Did you hear a HANNITY caller say his son(I think) is/was over in Iraq and was watching (Arab)reports on Kennedy's use of Vietnam?
18 posted on 04/30/2004 8:44:42 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (To me, it is a never ending marvel what our soldiers can do. ----------- PATTON)
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To: jmstein7
... I wonder why this didn't get as much coverage as Swimmer's speeches?

Because the left know when to say something in order for it to "make the news", even though what Stevens said is more important and relevant.

19 posted on 04/30/2004 8:46:52 AM PDT by OXENinFLA (To me, it is a never ending marvel what our soldiers can do. ----------- PATTON)
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To: OXENinFLA
Yes I did hear that .. and the translation to the enemy was to fight the Americans

Did you about hear the caller that mentioned these types of attacks started to heat up after the Dems came out and started shooting of their mouths ?
20 posted on 04/30/2004 8:48:14 AM PDT by Mo1 (Make Michael Moore cry.... DONATE MONTHLY!!!)
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