[JohnGalt]

You may well have been born in America and live a traditional lifestyle, but all I have seen from you is a general rejection of the tenants of American conservatism.

And if you prefer Jacobin to Trotskyite, have at it.

"Unanswerable in any war?"

Nailed you again, I see. No different than a leftie, both talk only of the lofty goal of your favorite welfare program, and never the cost.

[Dr. Frank fan]

You may well have been born in America and live a traditional lifestyle, but all I have seen from you is a general rejection of the tenants of American conservatism.

Give examples.

By the way, conservatism has no "tenants". Tenants are those people who pay rent to live somewhere. Do you know what word you meant to use there, by any chance? I wonder if your knowledge of vocabulary is as extensive as your knowledge of Trotsky.

And if you prefer Jacobin to Trotskyite, have at it.

I'd prefer you refrain from empty baseless puerile name-calling but perhaps that's too much to ask.

Nailed you again, I see. No different than a leftie, both talk only of the lofty goal of your favorite welfare program, and never the cost.

Please list any war(s) where conservatives (or anyone, really) have successfully specified casualties and cost in advance. Thanks.

Because it seems that by your criterion here (=a war is invalid and "leftie" unless casualties and cost are specified in advance) all wars are invalid. Is that really what you think the "conservative" position to be? If so, let us know, so that we may judge your version of "conservatism" accordingly.

Did the American Revolutioners specify costs and casualties in advance? Guess those Minutemen were a bunch of damn "lefties" huh?

[mjaneangels@aolcom]

"No different than a leftie, both talk only of the lofty goal of your favorite welfare program, and never the cost."

Cost. How about the 6 trillion dollars that the US economy lost after 1 1/2 hours of attacks on this nation? How about the cost of 3000 lives?