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Your theory that Saddam had no control has been debunked by Rumsfeld and a host of others within the administration. It was also debunked quite thoroughly by, without counting, approx. a half dozen freepers.

Why you think I'd waste my time trying to convince you of something I know to be true when you would just change the goalposts again is beyond me.

By all means, feel comfortable in your worldview that Saddam didn't support terrorists.

Didn't pay the PLO. Didn't let the first WTC bomber come there to live. Didn't permit Salmon Park training to occur. Didn't permit WMD training to occur with the Jordanian head of AQ. IN your view, those things mean nothing. It means nothing to you that over 100 mainstream press reported in the 90's that there was alarm all over the world that Saddam and OBL were forging a relationship.

Don't worry about the links posted above by another poster that clearly showed the connections between Iraq and AQ in Iraq's own state controlled newspaper which quote Saddam, his sons and his own intelligence people.

Don't let these host of facts get in the way of your convictions. I could spend all day looking for the newspaper articles and press briefings from the beginning of the war in Iraq that quoted Rumsfeld talking about the Kurdish zones which dispute what you say. What good would it do? I'm having an enjoyable day by our pool. You wouldn't change your mind anyway.

"WASHINGTON, April 10 (AFP) US and Kurdish forces began to move into the northern Iraqi city of Mosul on Thursday, as Iraqi forces surrendered their weapons along the "green line" separating Iraqi and Kurdish-controlled areas of the north, US Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld said."

For future reference, to "debunk" somethink you need to submit proof, not simply make an unsupported assertion. But, since you are out in the sun, I'm sure you will now assert that this "green line" had absolutely no significance and may as well not have existed at all - or that Saddam so loved the Kurds that he just gave them freedom to demostrate that love.