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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Isn't it utterly bizarre? I pinged narses (who was very active on the thread yesterday) but didn't use my whole ping list, since everyone would be pinged again by narses. I only wish I could think of this as an isolated aberration (redundant, yes?), but in view of other hints and rumors and reports . . . .
8 posted on 04/25/2004 8:04:25 AM PDT by maryz
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To: maryz
Um...yeah. Malachi Martin territory?

The problem with allegations this bizarre tends to be that that they are so outlandishly weird no one usually can believe them. Does that mean nothing criminal happened? Not necessarily.

If such crimes occurred with the perpetrators as actual clergymen, as alleged, it starts to make you wonder whether some form of diabolical possession is involved. One would certainly want hard evidence to back up such claims of cult crime.

What investigators should be looking for in such cases are details in the backgrounds of the accused which could link them with the occult or extreme sex (S&M porn, etc.). It is important for the purposes of understanding this kind of bizarre, criminal counter-culture to determine whether any of those accused were involved with such activities BEFORE they became clergymen. If such allegations are true, it would seem likely that such individuals would be connected with activities OUTSIDE of the ecclesiastical institutions as well. Just because someone joins a Catholic organization does not necessarily mean that is the main focus of their life. Insanely psychotic people and people with warped, twisted emotional development exist. Still, these allegations are very weird.

But mere affiliation with the church does not always mean that a person is free of criminal tendencies. And the devil stalks consecrated souls as well. The possibility that real supernatural evil is present is something that some investigators have difficulty dealing with. For one thing, it's NOT a human mind that is directing such activities.

10 posted on 04/25/2004 8:23:34 AM PDT by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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The article (click on the full text) says,
The woman whose allegations led to the reopening of the case testified before the Diocesan Review Board last June 11 and wrote a detailed statement alleging years of horrific sexual, physical, and psychological abuse by Toledo diocesan and religious-order priests during her childhood.

She described Satanic ceremonies in which priests placed her in a coffin filled with cockroaches, forced her to ingest what she believed to be a human eyeball, and penetrated her with a snake "to consecrate these orifices to Satan."

She also alleged that the group of clerics killed an infant and a 3-year-old child, performed an abortion on her, and mutilated dogs during the rituals, according to a copy of her statement obtained by The Blade.
Sounds like a bunch of heavy baloney and too much TV watching to me.
20 posted on 04/25/2004 1:58:12 PM PDT by heyheyhey
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