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To: freepatriot32
Yeah, it's such a shame that freedom of speech is so violently oppressed in this country by the jackbooted thugs who censor the freedom of expression of the child pornographers. (Hey! Child pornographers are people too!!)

But I think our culture is moving in the right direction, don't you? We just got our first bared breast in the middle of family hour on national TV. So things are moving in the right direction, yes?

Every time I go into local grocery stores, I optimistically scan the magazines on the checkout shelves, hoping that at long last that glorious day has arrived when we can gaze longingly at photos of naked models getting it off with farm animals while waiting for our groceries to be scanned. But alas, that day has not yet arrived. Sigh!

Every time I visit the WalMart, I hopefully glance up to see if they are now allowing photos of child-adult sex on the magazine covers. But again, my hopes are always dashed! (And people claim we have a free country? HA!!)

Oh, what a wonderful day that will be when we finally have evolved so far upwards as a culture that we can see all these things and more right in front of our eyes, whichever direction we happen to turn our gaze in, 24 by 7!

Yes!! Let freedom ring! Only when kiddie porn and necrophilic porn and animal sex photos in full glossy poster size are surrounding us all day long, will we finally be able to say that for the very first time in American history the First Amendment's guarantee of Freedom Of Speech has come true!!!

(</sarcasm>)

16 posted on 04/23/2004 5:44:07 PM PDT by CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC (This is your brain. This is your brain on liberalism. Any questions?)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
thats all well and good but if the goverment censors tv to the extent pat wants it to the only station we will have is pbs! have you ever watched pbs? its more boring then c span on a sunday afternoon
17 posted on 04/23/2004 5:49:50 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (today it was the victory act tomorrow its victory coffee, victory cigarettes...)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
Here's the problem:

The culture itself used to censor it, with shaming and expressions of revulsion.

Once the government has to do it, something has been lost.

I advocate the return of shame in the culture (i.e. young people realize that such animalistic displays hurt them, hurt thier marriages, hurt thier futures and thier health and their future happiness) but I ain't holding my breath.
18 posted on 04/23/2004 5:50:02 PM PDT by squarebarb (I suppose JFnKerry might have fought well; he just doesn't have the convictions of his courage.)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
Excellent post.

I think you've reached the heart of the matter: censorship already exists, it's just a matter of what we as a society want censored and where we want it censored. Everybody has a line they don't want crossed, and it's up to us all to find that common line. Pat Boone's line is different from, say, Larry Flint's, but that doesn't mean we have to automatically accept Larry's threshold because it's the lowest common denominator. The middle of the bell curve is out there somewhere, and only robust, honest debate will find it.

30 posted on 04/23/2004 7:17:33 PM PDT by randog (Everything works great 'til the current flows.)
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To: CardCarryingMember.VastRightWC
Yes!! Let freedom ring! Only when kiddie porn and necrophilic porn and animal sex photos in full glossy poster size are surrounding us all day long, will we finally be able to say that for the very first time in American history the First Amendment's guarantee of Freedom Of Speech has come true!!!

Don't despair, that day is coming soon!

Even as we discuss, the womens' mags at the local grocery store picture models and actresses with MOST of their breasts exposed, with articles the titles of which even a child could read, delineating the value of different sexual positions and methods to gratify numerous sexual partners!

32 posted on 04/23/2004 8:39:33 PM PDT by little jeremiah (...men of intemperate minds can not be free. Their passions forge their fetters.)
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