Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

To: Lokibob
What I wish they had posted on the website is the whole package with the original date of the original correspondence recommending the award for the Bronze Star and Silver Star, All that is posted is the correspondence which was readressed and forwarded and signed by the CNO at the time, Admiral Zumwalt on the Bronze Star and it looks like Lehman as SECNAV. Depending upon when the original letter was prepared and the time it got up the pipeline would be interesting.

We all have seen reports where the original correspondence gets lost and years later the award is signed and presented.

I am not a Kerry fan..can't stand him. Would like to see the entire package.
As for the Purple Hearts...who knows how those were awarded or who wrote up the citations..there should be a paper trail I would think.
581 posted on 04/24/2004 1:02:36 PM PDT by celtic gal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies ]


To: celtic gal; Howlin; Alamo-Girl; Ragtime Cowgirl
15 years later? For "award" and medals paperwork?

When the MEDAL can't be awarded (leagally) until the paperwork gets back to the "rewarding" unti?

When the "rewardee" is an admiral's aide, with all the paperwork assistance and clerks and staff "right there" to do just that?

Nah.

Wouldn't have happened.

By accident, at least.

Nope.

For whatever reason, he got the medals.

Then, some 15 years later, after Kerry becomes a Senaotr, Lehman signs a different version of the citation as SecNAV.

So, when they WERE fighting the Vietnam War, who had been designated "silver Star" signature authority?

Could CINCPAC actually award it? (He signed the second citation.... Why was there a second one issued for same action?)

Could Zumwalt, as Commander US Naval Forced Vietnam, sign it? (He did.)

Could Zumwalt sign (and authorize!) the Bronze Star?

Who, in the Freeper World, has received a Bronze Star?

Who, in the Freeper World, has received a Star Star who can show us the "authorizing" signature of either?



586 posted on 04/24/2004 8:00:41 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly ... But Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS press corpse lies every day.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 581 | View Replies ]

To: celtic gal
This is the "official policy" on replacement paperwork and lost awards paperwork.

Trying to make an excuse that 15 years went by can't fly.

...

From the DOD Awards manual

http://www.dtic.mil/whs/directives/corres/pdf/134833m_0996/p134833m.pdf

C3.3.6. Lost Recommendations. Recommendations officially placed into command or staff channels in the prescribed time limitations, but which were not acted on through loss or inadvertence, may be resubmitted at any time within the 2 years after the distinguished act, achievement, or service for consideration to the appropriate awarding authority. Lost recommendations must be forwarded through the same official channels and are contingent upon the requirements described in paragraphs C3.3.6.1. through C3.3.6.3., below. Recommendations not so documented shall be returned without action. The resubmission must include the following:

C3.3.6.1. A copy of the original recommendation or its substantive equivalent. Minimally, the recommendations should be accompanied by statements, certificates, and affidavits corroborating the events or services involved. The person signing a reconstructed award recommendation must be identified clearly in terms of his or her official relationship to the intended recipient at the time of the act or during the period of service to be recognized.

C3.3.6.2. Conclusive evidence that the recommendation was officially placed in command or staff channels in the prescribed time limit (paragraph C3.3.4., above).

C3.3.6.3. Conclusive evidence of the loss of the recommendation or the failure to act on the recommendation through inadvertence.

...

So, there goes anybody's excuse that the award was ;lost" or "delayed" in paperwork.

15 years is "slightly" past the limit.

(But NOT if you're a self-serving democratic Senator from Massachusetts!)
588 posted on 04/24/2004 9:01:34 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only donate monthly ... But Kerry's ABBCNNBCBS press corpse lies every day.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 581 | View Replies ]

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article


FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson