Well, don't just speculate about it, Do it then present the results. That way we can deal with facts in the real world, not imaginary speculation.
Coffea Arabica is one such example - it cannot interbreed with either its closely related species, or with its ancestral species.
That is because they are different, and independent, species. What is the ancestral species, and how do you demonstrate that the 'ancestral' species produced it ( a new species)? Being in the same family does not prove that one species of that family gave rise to another of that family. Again, don't just make speculative statements, demonstrate it.
I can take the time to research just such an example, but I won't bother if you will simply dismiss it. Let's agree on the rules in advance:
If I find an example of a plant, repeatedly crossbred by humans, that can no longer crossbreed with one of its ancestral species, will you agree that this represents a new species of plant?