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To: John H K
Travis'speech was as good a war speech as I have ever heard. I believed every word of it. I also liked the exchange between him and "Bowie". Bowie said if he had five more years Travis would have been a great man. Twenty-five more years and he would have led the men of Texas into battle against the North.But I loved his reply:"I'll just have to settle with who I am now." That is how we should all face death.
23 posted on 04/18/2004 8:49:45 PM PDT by RobbyS (JMJ)
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To: RobbyS
Guy who played Bowie could have lost about 20 lbs. though. I don't think a guy that sick with TB would look that hale and hearty and a bit chubby :-)

Billy Bob Thornton was quite good as Crockett.

Based on a Fabricated diary as it might be, the scene where Crockett is captured and executed actually involves Crockett mouthing off to Santa Anna and cracking jokes, not Crockett groveling in fear as one of the anti-Alamo smear campaign articles alleged before the movie came out.

It seems to be a routine now on FR that the mear mention of slavery in connection with anything causes people to flip out; there's a whole group of people who will throw and apopaleptic fit on any FR thread where someone suggests the Civil War had anything to do with anything other than tariffs.

But, in a battle symbolic of freedom, I mean, you have to address the fact that several of the key players owned slaves..and admit that slavery is bad. However, they didn't make the slaveowners at the Alamo look like pure evil or anything....


The movie DID depict the Tejanos fighting inside the Alamo, and it would not have surprised me, though, if some of them at some time may have questioned who they were fighting with..I didn't have a problem with that scene. And Juan Seguin did end up fighting for the Mexicans in the Mexican-American War, right?

I must confess to not being as much of an Alamo expert as I am in a lot of other eras of military history.

Santa Anna is depected as the pure sack of s*** he was in reality, in the entire movie...that certainly wasn't PC. There's one Mexican general who argues with Santa Anna that it would be illegal to execute anyone captured in the Alamo...not sure if that really happened.

But at San Jacinto instead of being a Coward like Santa Anna, that general stands his ground and gets killed like a man, which I believe one of the generals actually did. But it doesn't bother me that every Mexican or member of Santa Anna's Army isn't shown badly...I'm sure there were some honorable men.

I just don't get the whole PC angle of the bashers. I guess they wouldn't have accepted anything other than Travis, Crockett, Bowie, and Houston depicted as saints with little halos over their heads..
25 posted on 04/18/2004 9:03:35 PM PDT by John H K
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