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GOTTA SEE THIS-WarEndur.Freedom 4/16/04- Fallujah, Najaf, Quattrocchi
NASA, DOD, Yahoo, AP, Reuters, AFP, TVs, and the usual suspects, and many brave photographers | 4/16/04 | The Armies of Good against the Axis of Evil

Posted on 04/16/2004 8:38:37 AM PDT by Diogenesis

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To: Diogenesis; kdf1; AMERIKA; Lancey Howard; MudPuppy; SMEDLEYBUTLER; opbuzz; Snow Bunny; ...
This is WAY Outstanding bump!!
61 posted on 04/16/2004 7:06:31 PM PDT by RaceBannon (VOTE DEMOCRAT AND LEARN ARABIC FREE!!)
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To: RaceBannon
bump
62 posted on 04/16/2004 7:09:15 PM PDT by Dubya (Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father,but by me)
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To: headsonpikes
How does that two way satellite service work? I'm thinking of moving and I'd lose DSL... I'd not want to go back to dialup if I could help it.

Great pictures as always, Dio!!!!
63 posted on 04/16/2004 7:15:35 PM PDT by TenthAmendmentChampion (Free! Read my inspirational historical romance novels: http://Writing.Com/authors/vdavisson)
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To: happygrl
I wasn't arguing with what you said at all - I was just expressing my generally frustrated view on the whole mess....

Nothing personal at all....
64 posted on 04/16/2004 7:20:20 PM PDT by TheBattman (Leadership = http://www.georgewbush.com/)
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To: tet68
Hmmm.... I wonder if that is a Chinese reproduction of the Russian Assault AK? It looks new. Hmmmm....

Any recent warfighters care to comment? I don't know if they the weapons in Iraq are Russian, French, or Chinese. (all suspect)
65 posted on 04/16/2004 7:30:49 PM PDT by PokeyJoe (FCC Warning: This post censored for an obvious Janet.)
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To: RaceBannon
Thanks for the ping, Amigo...this pic reminded me that ALL Juggies are infantrymen, first and foremost:


66 posted on 04/16/2004 7:31:58 PM PDT by ErnBatavia (Because Democrats are liars, they assume Republicans are too...)
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To: Old Sarge; 8mmMauser
Re the nifty Bazooka-Hat picture

http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20040414/capt.jbm10504141644.iraq_jbm105.jpg

I can MAKE one of those; 4 lengths of PVC pipe, some scrap aluminum, some handlebars off of an old bicycle; 4 piezio-electric barbeque ignitors (the red buttons); Some propane or a can of starting ether; a bag of russets....

And we're launching some serious potatoes here, gang!

67 posted on 04/16/2004 7:33:33 PM PDT by Uncle Jaque ("Scots; WaeHae Where Wallace Bled; Scots Wham Bruce Hae Aften Led;... ")
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To: TheBattman
my generally frustrated view on the whole mess....

A shared frustration, especially in that the reason we are taking so many casualties is that there are political factors at work.

No reason for Fallujah to not experience the Shock and Awe that was promised to them a year ago.

That would also get the attention of the shiites and they would clean up their messes quickly.

I also think that we should be more forceful about the hostage situations. Sadr's family should be captured and held until every last hostage is released.

68 posted on 04/16/2004 7:35:01 PM PDT by happygrl (this war is for all the marbles...)
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To: tet68
RE:

"Nice Para FAL, doesn't he know those are illegal under the assault weapons ban?"

It's OK; ALLAH said he could have it...

I would not be surprised if it once belonged to one of the 4 Blackwater guys they murdered a while ago.

That would no doubt be a really major status symbol to one of these ministers of malice, don't you suppose?
69 posted on 04/16/2004 7:44:20 PM PDT by Uncle Jaque ("Scots; WaeHae Where Wallace Bled; Scots Wham Bruce Hae Aften Led;... ")
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To: dennisw
"I would have nuked Mecca/Medina over this killing."

That was very effective in closing out WWII. I'd seriously consider doing that to save 100's of American lives.
70 posted on 04/16/2004 8:17:59 PM PDT by rj45mis
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To: Diogenesis
Thanks.
71 posted on 04/16/2004 8:33:19 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: TheBattman
2. Sanitize the region - take that however you want to.

"Sanitize" is good. Works for me. About 20kt. on Mecca and Medina.

72 posted on 04/16/2004 8:49:01 PM PDT by elbucko
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To: Diogenesis; PhilDragoo
Fantastic post, Diogenesis!

Thanks for the ping, Phil.
73 posted on 04/16/2004 9:16:24 PM PDT by potlatch ( Medals do not make a man. Morals do.)
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To: Diogenesis
Sounds like K works for the CIA. Hyping a war that the citizens of the United States never asked for is not patriotic, and if done by agents of the U.S. Gov't it would constitute a usurpation of power. These pics could have only come from Gov't sources and they amount to nothing but propaganda. Not every Iraqi that our troops are killing is a terrorist. And not every GI that will die as a result of Washington attempting to establish a permanent presence in the Middle East will do so for a Constitutional purpose.
74 posted on 04/16/2004 9:30:51 PM PDT by Radio_Liberty (no longer gullible)
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To: Diogenesis
Thanks Buddy!
75 posted on 04/16/2004 9:34:04 PM PDT by ezo4
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To: tet68
Nice Para FAL, doesn't he know those are illegal under the assault weapons ban?

Man, I want one....I'm stuck with a crappy sporter stock...Ugh...

76 posted on 04/16/2004 10:17:15 PM PDT by AdamSelene235
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To: dennisw
I'm with you. I am outraged at the liberal press non-coverage of events in Iraq. I have nothing but the utmost respect for the Italian hero killed by the cowards who call themselves men in Iraq. Do you hear things about the brave? Do you hear things about the good? No. All you hear is the liberal press dribble about how bad we are. In the days of our fathers, this type of talk would have been called treason and these scum would be in prison. God bless America and our allies!!!
77 posted on 04/16/2004 10:34:41 PM PDT by garbear
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To: garbear
I'm with you. I am outraged at the liberal press non-coverage of events in Iraq. I have nothing but the utmost respect for the Italian hero killed by the cowards who call themselves men in Iraq. Do you hear things about the brave? Do you hear things about the good? No. All you hear is the liberal press dribble about how bad we are. In the days of our fathers, this type of talk would have been called treason and these scum would be in prison. God bless America and our allies!!!

 

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/001/104ivafk.asp?pg=1

 

THE STUDENT of human nature who seems best to have recognized the importance of this bizarre dynamic, in which a conscientious hero proves unable to finish off a foe he knows to be evil, was none other than Shakespeare. Indeed, the Bard was obsessed with understanding the phenomenon. Hamlet hesitated to bring Claudius to justice, and he paid with his life and the lives of those he loved. But it is in "Richard III" that one can learn most from characters who see evil, yet freeze at the key moment. The principal characters are fully aware of Richard's undeniable evil, yet they let him have his way despite themselves. Richard is the most systematically evil character in all of Shakespeare's plays. "I can smile, and murder while I smile," he says, swearing that he will outdo all the villains of history "and set the murderous Machiavel to school."

The most important thing Richard knows is that while conscience allows us to understand ordinary crimes, it actually blinds us before the most extraordinary ones.

The idea that conscience blinds us, making us less able to oppose evil's most brazen forms, is deeply disturbing, for conscience is the sine qua non of civil society. Conscience is supposed to be the faculty that helps us become aware of our effects on others and our motives towards them, notably our baser motives. In Elizabethan English, "conscience" is an equivocal word that can mean either that faculty that allows us to feel guilt or "awareness," as in "consciousness." When Hamlet says, "Conscience does make cowards of us all," he means consciousness, by making us aware of the possibility of death, makes us cowardly.

But conscience, designed to ferret out evil within, can also actually narrow our awareness of evil. This happens, according to Freud, because the person with a conscience learns to repress automatically his own most destructive inclinations so as not to act on them. He becomes ignorant, for example, of the thrill of evil that a sadist like Richard III feels when he plays God and exercises the freedom to kill whomever he pleases. But the cost of repressing one's most destructive feelings is an inability to understand, without significant effort, those who give these feelings free rein.

This is seen over and over in "Richard III," especially in Richard's seduction of Lady Anne, whose husband he has murdered, and it is seen over and over in our dealings with terrorists. Richard actually gets Anne to drop her sword when she's about to kill him. Anne, although she knows Richard is evil, cannot see that he has no conscience. She tells him he should hang himself for what he has done. She keeps missing the point. He feels no guilt. Eventually, she marries him, and he murders her.

Conscience, when it is functioning well--automatically and without the intervention of reason, so that we do the right thing without thinking--is not simply rational. It is a force, a blunt instrument before which the conscientious person is guilty until proven innocent. As the preventive agency in the mind, conscience blocks first, thinks later. Men like Arafat and Richard know this. That is why both men constantly charge others with crimes--to paralyze them. Both know it doesn't matter whether the charges are false. Richard brazenly accuses Anne of inspiring the murder of her husband, as Arafat accuses the West of causing terrorism.

It is this force inside the psyche of his enemies that the person without a conscience can so effectively enlist as a fifth column. Having himself no such inner force always second-guessing him, he can see it clearly in others--far more clearly than do those who are in its thrall and take each of its charges seriously. Arafat gets endless second chances because the conscience of the West is doing what a conscience does: second-guessing the West's own actions. That is why Arafat is always playing upon the conscience of the West, especially by his endless recourse to "international law" and invocation of "human rights," an utterly brazen ploy coming from a terrorist.

Law, in the democracies, is like a civic conscience, and like conscience, it is the bluntest of instruments. Because law, in democracies, is made by the people, it has their respect. Democratic citizens are prone to the illusory hope that the law can be applied successfully in international affairs between regimes regardless of whether they are democracies or tyrannies, strong or weak. The name for this hope is "international law." But because the law in tyrannies is ultimately the product of one man's whim, a mere vehicle of the preeminent will and power, it cannot restrain the preeminent will and power. Conscientiousness in no way attaches to the law in tyrannies. International agreements with tyrants are meaningless, yet pursuit of such agreements is precisely what the State Department is now endorsing by trying to get Israel to sit at the table with Arafat.

"What is the law?" Saddam Hussein once asked. Then he answered his own question. "The two lines above my signature."

 

78 posted on 04/17/2004 1:42:04 AM PDT by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: Diogenesis
Great work. Thanks.
79 posted on 04/17/2004 5:57:14 AM PDT by mewzilla
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl
We heard from Heath on Easter and he is fine just wants us to send him some things. He said it's not as bad as it sounds. They are on stand by to go if things get bad. We had know or a week about them staying,it's just not as long as they had first though. He had been e mailing us but we have not had any emails since wednesday. He said they might be moving to...well I better not say just to be safe...Thanks a lot and I will keep in touch...Thanks. Greg
80 posted on 04/17/2004 7:30:34 AM PDT by GregB (God Bless and protect my nephew Heath with the 1st Armored Division in Baghdad.......)
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