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City of Dearborn asked to close on Muslim holidays
AP ^ | 4.15.04

Posted on 04/15/2004 11:20:32 AM PDT by ambrose

City of Dearborn asked to close on Muslim holidays

DEARBORN, Mich. (AP) - Good Friday and Christmas are city holidays. Now, with a large Muslim population living in Dearborn, local leaders of the faith are asking: Why not shut down for our holidays as well?

The western Detroit suburb of 88,000 has been a magnet for immigrants from the Mideast for decades and has one of the nation's largest concentration of Arabs.

Nearly 40 percent of Dearborn public school students are Muslim. The city also serves as a cultural and religious center for the estimated 300,000 members of the Arab-American community in southeastern Michigan.

The two major Muslims holidays in question are Eid al-Fitr, which marks the end of the monthlong Ramadan fast, and Eid al-Adha, which marks the annual completion of the pilgrimage to Mecca. The dates of the holidays change each year because they are determined by a lunar calendar.

"You do have a large Arab-American population in the city of Dearborn, and it is time for people of the Muslim faith to feel equally important," said Ahmed Chebbani, chairman of the American-Arab Chamber of Commerce.

The American Muslim Society on April 6 asked the City Council to make both days city holidays. The council referred the request to the city's legal department. Each of the Muslim holidays last for several days.

One city councilman expressed doubt.

"The city of Dearborn will follow the state and federal holiday calendar, and until that changes, that's where I stand," Thomas Tafelski said.


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To: ambrose
Yeh, right, same time my church is allowed to send missionaries to Mecca.............OK?
41 posted on 04/15/2004 1:24:52 PM PDT by litehaus
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To: ambrose
Screw them.
42 posted on 04/15/2004 1:26:10 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: mrsmith
You don't get it, oh well.
43 posted on 04/15/2004 1:26:20 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: Monty22
You don't care about the Constitution, oh well.
44 posted on 04/15/2004 1:32:28 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: Bikers4Bush
We don't celebrate muslim holidays here. If you want that crap move to the middle east.

Hey now! This is America -- where everyone can practice whatever they want. Me, I'm a member of the Fartusian Synod. We celebrate every Thursday as the holy day of our prophet Ralph. The celebrations last three days, with, of course, the church-supplied holy water Daniels of the Jack and we have to reverently consume the rib-bones of a consecrated cow.

We call to prayer at 2:00 am daily with our holy crier Jimmy Page.

Naturally, I'll be asking the government to repect my religion (and underwrite/subsidise its purchase of holy water and accomanying holy food) since they will respect anyone's.

If numbers are an issue, how long until I have hundreds of thousands of worshippers with holy rituals like these?

Deerborn, here I come!

45 posted on 04/15/2004 1:32:42 PM PDT by m87339 (If you could see what a drag it is to be you)
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To: Vigilantcitizen; simply marvelous
If S/M did indeed post those keywords either seriously or as a lark, why is he still here?

Lack of respect and demeaning our dead soldiers should not be tolerated on this forum.

I realize S/M is just out of High School or so he says and claims to be Canadian but I have seen others at least get time in the hole for less.

I myself have been personally and publicly thrashed by the Big Kahuna himself for a lesser offense in my view.
47 posted on 04/15/2004 1:35:51 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: BohDaThone; dennisw; Mr. Mojo
I don't equivocate Judaism with Ragheadism which is why in my view we give Jewish holidays in large Jewish areas.
48 posted on 04/15/2004 1:38:17 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: mrsmith
Not if it means putting up with islamism growing in the USA.
49 posted on 04/15/2004 1:39:38 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: wardaddy
At this rate Dearborn will be under Sharia law by decade's end.

....as will many areas of Old Europe.

50 posted on 04/15/2004 1:41:44 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: Monty22
Then amend it.
51 posted on 04/15/2004 1:44:47 PM PDT by mrsmith ("Oyez, oyez! All rise for the Honorable Chief Justice... Hillary Rodham Clinton ")
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To: Mr. Mojo
Some folks wish us to be "openminded about our own self destruction"....imagine that.
52 posted on 04/15/2004 1:48:31 PM PDT by wardaddy (This is it. We either win and prevail or we lose and get tossed into that dustbin W mentioned!)
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To: wardaddy
I grew up in a Jewish area and public schools were closed for the most important Jewish holidays. 3 days a year maybe.
53 posted on 04/15/2004 1:51:09 PM PDT by dennisw (“We'll put a boot in your ass, it's the American way.” - Toby Keith)
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To: Rummyfan
First a mosque in Hamtramck wants to broadcast the daily prayer calls over loudspeakers and now this!

Which is one of many reasons why I stay west of US-23 and north of M-36(Which turns into 9 mile)

54 posted on 04/15/2004 2:17:12 PM PDT by Dan from Michigan ("...and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take...OUR FREEDOM")
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To: TonyWojo
There are celebrations all over the country for Cinco de Mayo, but the governments do not shut down.

Cinco de Mayo is not a religious holiday. But I would rather not get Christmas and Good Friday off work than allow days off for Muslim holidays.

55 posted on 04/15/2004 2:27:03 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (Mairzy Doats and Dozy Doats and Liddle Lamzy Divey ...)
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To: Mr. Mojo
At this rate Dearborn will be under Sharia law by decade's end.

....as will many areas of Old Europe

I understand how Islamics got to Europe, many European nations had colonies in the Arabic world, and some migrated from those colonies to the colonial master, but how did it come to be that Dearborn, Michigan, of all places, got so heavily Islamic? I could understand if thise story took place in New York City, or Los Angeles, or any one of the nation's top ten cities, but why little Dearborn?

I've asked this question before on other threads, but nobody's ever supplied an answer. What is it about Dearborn, did Henry Ford hire a bunch of them many years ago?

56 posted on 04/15/2004 2:29:33 PM PDT by hunter112
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To: spodefly
"Nuke Dearborn!!!"

Hey . . . Watch that stuff! I live in Dearborn, too -- as do many of my family. Our area used to be a strongly Polish area and still has many of the same businesses (good restaurants) in the neighborhood.

Yes, we now have many Arab neighbors. Yes, they have many different habits than what I was used to when I grew up locally. For instance, many of the bars in the area closed for lack of business. But, at least close to me, all the neighbors are very nice, take great care of their property and are law abiding almost to the extreme. Fact is, although a few short blocks from Detroit, this is a crime free area and everyone (including single women) feels free to take a jog/walk anytime 24/7 in this neighborhood. On the other hand, it could be decisively unhealthy to cause problems around here because everyone (including me) would come out to help.

Locally, there are Arabs in City government and one is even assistant police chief. Two of my Arab neighbors are Dearborn Police Officers. As a population, they are striving to learn English quickly and one of the local Arab cable TV channels teaches a well received English class for Arabs which replays (I think) four times a day.

One friendly local business proprietor asked me once why I don't learn Arabic. (I know a few words.) I just looked at him and smiled, replying: "Why don't you learn Polish?" Everyone around got a big laugh out of that cause they know -- we speak English here. English is our common bond. And, I am happy to report, all the kids in the area speak English without an accent.

So, Dearborn is still Dearborn: a nice place to live. Yes, with the "newcomers," it changed somewhat. But, they seem to be conforming to the local community quickly. Sure, they have a few religious needs that are different. Fact is, though, all that stuff seems to be getting worked out nicely and does not seem to be bothering anyone (anymore).

One other point: Their kids act a lot like the kids around here did when I grew up here in the 1950s. That is, they address adults as "sir" or "ma'am," always say hello and I have never seen even a hint of any trouble. I'm out there walking a few miles every evening, too, and so see a lot of people every day.

Anyway, that's my point of view -- from someone on the inside of Dearborn, Michigan looking out.

57 posted on 04/15/2004 2:37:48 PM PDT by Doug Fiedor
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To: Rummyfan
First a mosque in Hamtramck wants to broadcast the daily prayer calls over loudspeakers and now this!

You ain't seen nothing yet.

58 posted on 04/15/2004 2:41:34 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: Rummyfan
For some reason, which I am unable to fathom, we have a very large Arab-American population in Michigan. There is also a very large group near/in Toledo, Ohio. A beautiful, huge mosque is located near Perrysburg, just south of Toledo.
59 posted on 04/15/2004 2:42:25 PM PDT by madison10 (Proud member of RAM since 1978.)
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To: hunter112
There have been Lebanese-Americans (not necessarily Muslim) in this area of Michigan & Ohio for at least 100 years. Danny Thomas, who was born near my home, is one, as is Jamie Farr.

Maybe there are so many here because that's where the train stopped? ;) or maybe people from the same regions set up neighborhoods together regardless of whether they were Christian or Muslim. They may have felt more akin to each other than to the bigoted, blue-collar Americans.
60 posted on 04/15/2004 2:49:51 PM PDT by madison10 (Proud member of RAM since 1978.)
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