[gramho12]

I don't think Havoc wants advice or encouragement. She wants to blame others for what happened to her and to play the victim. Where has she been the last 10 years while millions of jobs have gone overseas for a multitude of reasons? She cares now cause it finally affected her.

[Carolinamom]

Your story of the Marples is one of stamina and true grit. My son's company last fall went belly up, but his boss asked him to stay on w/him in starting up another software company. That company is taking off w/new business, and my son is now its VP. Another true gritter IMO.