[Havoc]

No, I came to present an issue and get a kneejerk response from the party faithful to show fellow citizens put out of work by slave labor what my party thinks of them. Couldn't get free traders to come to me so I brought the audience to my party in general. They're seeing the full discussion elsewhere too - which isn't much better. Ya'll even mischaracterized why it was done. People appreciate being real. Ya'll were just real. And by golly, that gets votes.

[StoneColdGOP]

get a kneejerk response from the party faithful

The party faithful, and there are truly few of those, are true to the principles of the party and the Constitution, no matter what.

These people are true and loyal to the personality that puts stars in their eyes and that they kneel to pray to. That's Bush.

It's a cult. Nothing more.

[LS]

Bite me, dude. I'm not paying outrageous wages so you can have two vacation homes and a boat, which was what the UAW members had in the 1970s when you guys priced our cars right off the map. Greedy SOBs. Not that the stupid mgt. people didn't contribute, but thank GOD for free trade so I'm not a "slave" of your inflated bogus wages. Now beat it.

[Lady Heron]

Like I said it is what you do with the downs in your life that garners respect.

If you want to discuss outsourcing that is for an other thread, and you know it. Your agenda belongs elsewhere, and because it does you made people mad here(a discussion of the Presidents speach not outsourcing and your whining). Then you take our anger for you misplaced argument and plant it elsewhere to support your agenda. Sorry you have gained nothing but my contempt for trying to twist this situation to your advantage.

Try going to the treads that have discussed outsourcing in the past....oh but that would not fit your agenda so nicely.