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Whatever happened to dressing up on Easter Sunday?
The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review ^ | Saturday, April 10, 2004 | Alyson Walls

Posted on 04/11/2004 9:02:32 AM PDT by Willie Green

Although famed musical composer Irving Berlin thought them lovely enough to write a sonnet, nowadays few women are donning Easter bonnets.

In fact, you're more apt to see wrinkled khakis and rumpled polo shirts than pressed suits and pastel pumps at church on Sunday.

While Easter Sunday has traditionally been the day to show off your new spring finery, America has become a nation that dresses down, and not just on "casual Fridays" in the office.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: 5thavenueparade; church; easter; easterbonnets; easterparade; eastersunday; fashioncritiques; fashionreview; fasionistas; slobs; springfinery; theguild
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To: nmh
don't need to play or have the patience for the Clinton hair splitting redefinition game

Me neither. It's a very serious spiritual question, and you refused to answer it. You impose an arbitrary dress code (that some people, for physical reasons you can't understand, find intolerable), and you pharisaically judge those who are not in compliance, as not being true worshippers, not really caring about God.

To add grievous insult to injury, you compare me to Clinton... who always dressed "well" for church and conspicuously failed to heed its teachings.

Why?

301 posted on 04/11/2004 9:08:08 PM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: nmh
Dressing down makes a statement...... namely, that I have a physical condition which makes "nice" clothes terribly uncomfortable -- and I'd rather be comfortable enough to pay attention to the Word rather than scratching, itching, and counting the minutes till I can get out of there.

That is the ONLY statement I am making when I dress comfortably for church.

302 posted on 04/11/2004 9:10:07 PM PDT by Rytwyng
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To: threat matrix
Yes, I'm sure Jesus would be very disappointed by her clothes. (give me a break)
303 posted on 04/11/2004 9:10:32 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace (I'm from the government and I'm here to help.)
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To: woofie
"Yep but Im happy"

So uh, if your an atheist, what do you mean exactly when you say "God bless our soldiers"?

MSNBC: US Helicopters destroy 5 house in Fallujah

Posted by woofie to mikegi On News/Activism 04/05/2004 9:14:47 AM PDT #2 of 61

"God bless our soldiers"

304 posted on 04/11/2004 9:22:23 PM PDT by Windsong (f7er)
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To: Rytwyng
Define "best" according to Holy Scripture.

Define "define" according to Holy Scripture. Define "according" according to Holy Scripture. Define "Holy Scripture" according to Holy Scripture. Do you think that 'Sola Scriptura' means that all true aesthetic values must be derived from Scripture?

305 posted on 04/11/2004 9:37:10 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: stboz; hgro; TattooedUSAFConservative; freedox; Joe Hadenuf; kittymyrib; Dante3; going hot; ...
1. Aesthetic relativism is false. Not only are some things intrinsically beautiful, and other things intrinsically ugly, but some ways of dressing are intrinsically irreverant, and others are not.

2. Dressing up for church in order to impress other people with one’s looks is vain and wrong. So is dressing up to flaunt one’s wealth. But abuse does not nullify proper use. Just because there are wrong reasons to X does not mean that there are no right reasons to X.

3. For those who have no understanding of aesthetics and what is objectively communicated by the way one dresses when coming to God's presence, “Go to God in whatever suits you” is not good advice. It is much worse than telling a blind man to pick out his wedding outfit by simply choosing whatever feels best to him.

4. Since God wants us to be reverent and respectful in His presence, and since the way one dresses (and acts) when coming to God’s presence is either reverent and respectful or not, God does care how we are dressed when coming into His presence.

5. Just because Saddam dressed nicely does not mean that God does not care how we dress when coming into His presence; that’s a non sequitur. The way we dress (and act) when coming into God’s presence reflects something about our heart, even if only the recognition that God deserves to be approached in dress and manner that are reverent and respectful.

6. Anyone who thinks that coming to God’s presence in tank tops, tube tops, shorts, rags, pajamas, jeans, sneakers, halter tops, bikinis, thongs, etc. etc. is respectful and reverent needs to study aesthetics. People who come to God’s presence dressed irreverently are saying something with their manner of dress (i.e. God is not worthy of respect and reverence), even if they are thinking something else in their minds. Right intentions do not right actions make. It is not enough to have good intentions.

7. Just because health of the soul is more important than health of the body, it does not follow that how one dresses in God’s presence is unimportant. Not only does the soul affect the body, but the body affects the soul. This is why we kneel in prayer; it is not mere tradition. Kneeling actually helps prepare our souls for prayer. Likewise, coming to God’s presence dressed irreverently tends to put the soul in a less reverent state. The idea that our bodies (and their actions and their manner of cover and adornment) are irrelevant to the condition and activity of our souls is a kind of Platonically rooted Gnosticism, which the church has long recognized as heretical.

8. Trying to impress God is not the reason to dress respectfully and reverently in His presence. God, being omniscient, cannot be impressed by the way we dress, or by anything that we do. But God can be respected and revered by the way we dress.

306 posted on 04/11/2004 10:03:30 PM PDT by adiaireton8 ("There is no greater evil one can suffer than to hate reasonable discourse." - Plato, Phaedo 89d)
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To: adiaireton8
But God can be respected and revered by the way we dress.

No offense, but this is a load of bunk.

307 posted on 04/11/2004 10:18:39 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (I failed anger management class, they decided to give me a passing grade anyway)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
"No offense, but this is a load of bunk."

I'm amazed that you don't see it. It's as obvious to me as night and day.
308 posted on 04/11/2004 10:37:25 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Hildy
Could somebody here please explain to this Jew what bunnies, eggs and bonnets have to do with the resurrection of Christ?

That is a very good question. Others on this thread have given very good answers. Here is my attempt.

The early Chuch never viewed non-Christian cultures as totally devoid of religious significance, only that their religious understanding was incomplete. If those cultures possessed symbols that expressed ideas similar to Christianity, they were viewed as prefigurations to the ultimate meaning to be found in Christianity. It provided a link from the old religion to the new one.

The original Christians, all of whom were Jewish, found it very natural to interpret their own scriptures pointing forward to what they experienced in the founding of the church. St. Paul would use a similar technique when he went outside the synagogue of a foreign city to preach to Greeks. He used imagery in Greek culture to illustrate and illuminate his message.

Eggs and rabbits were symbols of fertility--new life. The church simply blessed them to bring out what they thought were their ultimate and true meaning--new life that was eternal, the Resurrection.

As for Easter bonnets, I can only offer a possible explanation. Not so long ago, women always wore hats when they went out of the house. Women also wore something on their heads when they went to church--a scarf, a prayer veil, a hat. Easter was a joyous holiday, so celebrate with a new hat.

Today, women seldom wear hats when they go out of the house or in church. I don't think people understand any more the fascination woman used to have for hats.

I hope this helps as an explanation. Sorry if it's a bit wordy, but I didn't know how to say it in fewer words.

309 posted on 04/11/2004 11:11:56 PM PDT by stripes1776
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To: adiaireton8
Is that a "Yes" or a "No"?
310 posted on 04/12/2004 12:34:20 AM PDT by WKB (3!~ Term Limits: Because politicians are like diapers., need to be changed for the same reason.)
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To: Haddon
I'm looking around; just haven't found what I'm looking for, yet.
311 posted on 04/12/2004 4:26:35 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• © • ™ • ® •)
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To: pepperdog
Bravo for you, Mrs PD! Every Methodist Church I find here in southcentral Pennsylvania has the UMC logo on it's front lawn billboard, so I'm keeping an eye out during my travels, for an independent church.
312 posted on 04/12/2004 4:29:09 AM PDT by 7.62 x 51mm (• © • ™ • ® •)
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To: adiaireton8
You obviously have a strong bias toward dressing up. I'll stick with my collared shirt and slacks (no tie, sign of status you know).

I went to a church once where everyone, but me, wore a full business suit and the women were equally dressed. Everyone had on their best jewelry and adornment. I thought to myself, this is the most incredible example of materialism I have ever seen. They were there to show off under the auspices of praising God.

I don't think anyone here suggested going to church in shorts, a tank top, and flip-flops. However, the idea one should dress in a full suit and tie, to show respect to God, is ridiculous.
313 posted on 04/12/2004 6:49:27 AM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: missyme
I choose to wear black pants and a sweater set. It was not my original plan but it turned off very coled here on Easter Sunday. 39 degrees at Church time. The whole congregation was dressed different than we all would have planned but we got the same message. He is Risen Indeed!
314 posted on 04/12/2004 6:55:45 AM PDT by JFC
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To: Conservative til I die
It's true, what was considered casual when a lot of us were younger is now ok to wear to work. There are a lot of folks who do not even get as far as casual to come to church, skin showing where it probably shouldn't, flipflops are the thing with the younger kids. I know much of the thought on dress is related to traditions 'but' the younger generation thinks jeans, Tshirt, or sweats, and flipflops are appropriate for any occasion. If you don't believe me watch What Not To Wear for a few weeks! LOL I've told my kids that no matter how much education they may accomplish that if they go into an interview possessing a PHD but dressed like a slob, and there is another candidate neatly groomed with a lot less education, the best dressed man wins.
315 posted on 04/12/2004 6:56:27 AM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< http://ripe4change.4-all.org)
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To: Willie Green
Not me. I wore a pink strapless sundress and heels on Easter Sunday...and this was in gloomy, cloudy cold NYC! If spring wont come to me, then I will go spring! ;)

316 posted on 04/12/2004 6:57:43 AM PDT by FeliciaCat (Life is to short for ugly shoes.)
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To: FeliciaCat
I wore a pink strapless sundress and heels on Easter Sunday

So did I. The weather was nice. Why was everyone looking at me funny?

317 posted on 04/12/2004 7:03:12 AM PDT by MARTIAL MONK
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To: Willie Green
I know too many Christians who like to play dress-up but never read their bibles.
318 posted on 04/12/2004 7:06:15 AM PDT by biblewonk (The only book worth reading, and reading, and reading.)
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To: Willie Green
Some folks say that all the new bonnets and spring dresses are distracting, I say so are flipflops and cutoffs.
319 posted on 04/12/2004 7:33:40 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: MARTIAL MONK
I'm thinking a monk should wear pink....;)

320 posted on 04/12/2004 7:35:56 AM PDT by FeliciaCat (Life is to short for ugly shoes.)
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