'Alamo' Movie Touches Raw Nerve in Mexico (awwwwhh, too bad ALERT!)

Fort Worth[LESS] Startlegram ^ | 4/8/04 | Mark Stevenson, ap

[Jeff Head]

With its revionists depiction of Crockett, Travis, Bowie and Houston...it also touching a raw nerve amongst Native Texans.

They apparently utilize a de-bunked, fraudulent letter's version of Crockett's death and it has a lot of folks very upset.

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[Always Right]

Gee, they are mad? The movie depicts the Americans as cowards and the Mexicans as brave men. The movie soils the reprutation of brave Americans with lies. This movie deserves to be the flop it will be.

[BSunday]

Good. Sounds like they did the story justice.

[FITZ]

"We Mexicans have always condemned him, classified him as a traitor and nothing more," said Echevarria. "But if that was all he was, then how could he have been president of Mexico 11 times?"

Because that's how you guys vote --- Mexico has a democratically elected president who never represents the majority.

[BadAndy]

Contrary to popular opinion, California and much of the SW was SOLD to the US by Mexico (at a very fair price). We didn't steal it. I'm sure the Russians and French also regret selling Alaska and the Louisiana territory. Each had good reason at the time, just like Mexico.

[OldSmaj]

"This movie will without doubt cause polemics for Mexican audiences," the newspaper Reforma wrote in a review.

Do the idiots even know what the word "polemics" means?

They've been "polemicing" for a long, long time now, with many of them advocating open war to reclaim the "stolen" lands.

They are already "polemicing" themselves into American society thru their illegal immigrations and purposeful avoidance of compliance with US law.

They can "polemic" all they want.

The fact remains, this is not Aztlan, it is the United States of America and no amount of "polemicing" by anyone south of our border will result in them getting it back.

There are dark clouds on the horizon and I'm convinced our next major conflict will be to the south. Perhaps not in my lifetime and perhaps not at all, as the invasion is occurring a little at a time, insidious and never-ending.

We'll probably wake up one morning and wonder just how the hell it happened.

..."Sigh"...

I really, really wish Dubya would address the problem just a little more decisively, before it steamrolls us all.

[LN2Campy]

"I really, really wish Dubya would address the problem just a little more decisively, before it steamrolls us all."

Dubya, like the rest of the elites that run this country ("right" and "left"), does not care one whit for the wholesale violation of our southern border. As long as the invasion continues to provide plenty of coolie labor, it's AOK by him.

Those on the left like the onslaught for different reasons -- they hate the fact that this country was essentially an outpost of Anglo-Saxon civilization, and want to see it "multi-culti'ed" into a third world morass.

My immigrant forebears, all swarthy, ignorant southern Italian peasants, thankfully had brains enough to eagerly embrace the dominant WASP culture and assimilate. The latest batch of imports wants to have their cake and eat it too. It's a recipe for disaster.

But the folks in the gated communities will have their armoured limos, and really won't mind the fact that in 20 years huge swathes of the USA will essentially balkanized.

[Seydlitz]

"Contrary to popular opinion, California and much of the SW was SOLD to the US by Mexico (at a very fair price).

If the United States bought California and the Southwest, why did we fight a war to collect what was supposedly ours? I've got a copy of John S.D. Eisenhower's "So Far From God: The U.S. War with Mexico, 1846-48" here with me. Under the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, we paid $15,000,000 only after the war was won. I wouldn't call that payment a legitimate purchase so much as an ex post facto booby prize.

[ARCADIA]

The movie depicts the Americans as cowards

As long as it has them standing their ground, there is no way to portray these guys as cowards. Cowards would have gone AWOL, or butchered their own officers and surrendered. The key elements in the story is that a few stood against the many, and that the many stupidly and needlessly butchered them.

John Wayne's portrayal, while patriotic, has always left me a bit flat. In the days before morphine and penicillin there were no mere flesh wounds; and , a man can be brave and do his duty no matter how soiled his trousers. I have yet to see this film; but, at least it sounds like Hollywood has shown a mediocre of constraint and kept the usual UFOs, Gay love interests, 10 year old prodigies, and other weirdness out of it.

[Jeff Head]

There are dark clouds on the horizon and I'm convinced our next major conflict will be to the south. Perhaps not in my lifetime and perhaps not at all, as the invasion is occurring a little at a time, insidious and never-ending.

I address this issue in my book series, The Dragon's Fury Series, but in a little different context. The Red Chinese, in planning for and ultimately opening a multi-front war against us, use the Islamics and the Aztland extremeists (and any others they can) to bleed us and distract us as they do their ruthless business in Asia.

[Conservomax]

Aside from the Santa Anna Issues, these reactions are extremely annoying given that many of the audience members in Mexico (as well as left wing idiots in this country) will put the movie into context of the present day, which would be completely fecetious given that Mexico,compared to the US was a fairly powerful country in the 1830's.

[newheart]

First Mel Gibson makes a movie that suggests that Jews may have been involved in the crucifixion of Jesus. Now these guys make a movie which suggests that Mexicans may havve been involved in the massacre at the Alamo.

What is the world coming to?

The next thing you know someone will suggest that the Japanese were behind that thing at Pearl Harbor and Middle Eastern Arabs might have been involved in 9/11.

[af_vet_rr]

Gee, they are mad? The movie depicts the Americans as cowards and the Mexicans as brave men. The movie soils the reprutation of brave Americans with lies. This movie deserves to be the flop it will be.

Wow, that's really interesting. A friend of mine who was lucky enough to be at the premier of 'The Alamo' in San Antonio would disagree with you.

Where did you see the movie at?

If you haven't seen it, what did you think of everybody who was pre-judging 'The Passion' and saying that it was something that it wasn't??

[FITZ]

why did we fight a war to collect what was supposedly ours?

The war was fought because the people living in the region wanted freedom from Mexico.

[af_vet_rr]

First Mel Gibson makes a movie that suggests that Jews may have been involved in the crucifixion of Jesus. Now these guys make a movie which suggests that Mexicans may havve been involved in the massacre at the Alamo.

I heard some Germans may have been involved in killing a lot of Jews, and that there may even be some movies out there about it, the audacity of Hollywood!

On a side note, a friend that saw the premiere in San Antonio said that Patrick Wilson (William Travis) led an impromptu singing of 'God Bless America' before the movie started. I'm sure that probably pissed off quite a few people.

I expect the movie to get panned by the critics because those who have seen it have said that it doesn't look kindly upon the Mexican army, and that San Jacinto is very "feel good" and revenge for the Alamo. I'm thinking the lead actor singing 'God Bless America' probably doesn't make them happy either. The liberals are probably thinking "how dare they make a movie about another country killing a bunch of Americans/Texians".

[Seydlitz]

The war was fought because the people living in the region wanted freedom from Mexico.

The Texans wanted independence from Mexico, and they won it themselves. The United States did not fight Mexico to free anybody.

[FITZ]

Yes --- I didn't say the USA fought --- it was the people living in the region who fought for their freedom.

[freekitty]

So much for truth.