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Greenland Ice Melt May Swamp LA, Other Cities
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Posted on 04/08/2004 3:04:59 PM PDT by GulliverSwift

Greenland's massive ice sheet could begin to melt this century and may disappear completely within the next thousand years if global warming continues at its present rate.

According to a new climate change study, the melting of Greenland's ice sheet would raise the oceans by seven meters (23 feet), threatening to submerge cities located at sea level, from London to Los Angeles.

Even a partial melting of the ice sheet could have catastrophic consequences for low-lying countries like Bangladesh and the Maldives.

"A one-meter [three-foot] sea level rise would submerge a substantial amount of Bangladesh," Jonathan Gregory, the study's lead author and a climate scientist at the University of Reading in England, said in a telephone interview.

Scientists have previously calculated that if the annual average temperature in Greenland increases by almost 3° Celsius (5.4° Fahrenheit), its ice sheet will begin to melt.

Many experts believe the concentration of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere will have reached levels around the year 2100 that would cause the temperature to rise that much.

"We're not saying how long it will take to get to the three degrees or how long it will take to lose the ice sheet," Gregory said. "We're saying there's a high likelihood of passing this threshold of viability with the carbon dioxide levels that are currently being considered."

The research is described in this week's issue of the science journal Nature.

Global Warming

The issue of global warming is controversial. It's clear that, since the Industrial Revolution, atmospheric concentrations of carbon dioxide have increased 30 percent, enhancing the heat-trapping capability of the atmosphere.

Scientists generally believe that the combustion of fossil fuels to run cars, heat homes, and power factories is the primary source for this increase in carbon dioxide levels.

In the absence of emissions control policies, the United States Environmental Protection Agency says carbon dioxide concentrations will be 30 to 150 percent higher than the current 370 parts per million (ppm) found today.

" Meanwhile, the global surface temperature increased 0.6° Celsius (1.8° Fahrenheit) in the last century. Oceans have become warmer, too, expanding while storing heat. This has caused sea levels to rise 4 to 8 inches (10 to 20 centimeters) in the last hundred years.

While most scientists agree that higher greenhouse gas concentrations, particularly carbon dioxide, are causing global warming, a few scientists argue that atmospheric carbon dioxide levels may not be the only culprit, because they have remained relatively steady for the past 30 years.

Different Scenarios

At the present temperatures, about half of the snow that falls on Greenland melts and runs off as water. The rest of it stays and is discharged in the form of icebergs.

An increase of 3° Celsius (5.4° Fahrenheit) would change that equation, producing an increase in melting that will outweigh the increase in snowfall, according to Gregory.

"The warmer it gets, the more melting there is," he said. "You would also expect more precipitation, but most studies suggest that the increase in melting would be bigger. Beyond that threshold [of a 3° Celsius temperature increase], the ice sheet will likely not be viable and would just get smaller and smaller."

The study considered the climate sensitivity of a range of climate models and a range of carbon dioxide scenarios, from 450 parts per million, the lowest level considered by the United Nation's Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, to a thousand parts per million, or four times the pre-industrial carbon dioxide concentration.

"They demonstrate that a warming of about 3° Celsius for ongoing melting of the Greenland ice sheet is exceeded by 2100 for the majority of cases considered," said John Church, a climate scientist at the Australian government CSIRO Marine Research center in Hobart who was not involved in the study.

In the most extreme scenario, using a carbon dioxide level of 1,000 ppm, the study predicts temperatures to rise by 8° Celsius (18° Fahrenheit) by the year 2050. This, in turn, would raise sea levels by 7 meters (23 feet) in a thousand years.

"This is a high concentration, but it is within the range of scenarios that people have considered," Gregory said. "It's not a completely outrageous number."

Sinking Cities

If rising temperatures were to cause melting of Greenland's ice sheet, the process would be gradual. There's no evidence that the ice sheet would catastrophically disintegrate. Even the worst scenario is unlikely to alter the world map.

"If you were to raise the sea levels by seven meters [23 feet] and look at a map of the world, you probably wouldn't think it was startlingly [different]," Gregory said. "But of course many of the places where a lot of people live are close to sea level."

Many cities and communities along the U.S. Eastern Seaboard are at least partly below this level.

"Sea level rise has the potential to affect millions of people living in low-lying coastal regions, particularly the inhabitants of megacities developing on coasts around the world and those living on deltas of major rivers and small island nations," Church said.

Gregory and other scientists warn that even if the composition of the atmosphere could be reversed to pre-industrial conditions, the sea level rise could be irreversible. Once it's gone, the Greenland ice sheet is unlikely to be reestablished.

"Sea level represents one of the longer time scale responses found in the climate system," said Ronald J. Stouffer at the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Laboratory in Princeton, New Jersey.

"It may not be possible to stop or reverse this process once it has been underway for a period of time, even though the climate returns to a relatively cool state," Stouffer said.

For more global warming news, scroll down for related stories and links.


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KEYWORDS: climatechange; globalwarming; greenland; icecap; la; poles
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To: Argus
"As somebody who lives in the San Fernando Valley, I wish it would hurry up. Shorten my drive to the beach."

I live here too, but I don't want the L.A. scum to wash into the Valley either! I'll run over the hill to Simi!

81 posted on 04/08/2004 4:20:47 PM PDT by BobS
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To: Argus
Yeah, I live in Burbank. I'll have an ocean view ...
82 posted on 04/08/2004 4:37:51 PM PDT by pogo101
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To: GulliverSwift
Drive faster, much of America's Blue portion of the map pretty much starts at sea level and stops at about 40 feet above sea level. Just think! No West Palm Beach! No Boston! No LA! No San Fagcisco! Oh, what a wonderful world it would be!!
83 posted on 04/08/2004 4:38:59 PM PDT by Thor_Hammar
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To: CommerceComet
have a question for the scientists out there. Because ice is less dense than water, when the ice cubes in a drink melt, the water level goes down.

No, it doesn't. When the ice melts, it turns into an equivalent mass of water. Since a body floating in water displaces a mass of water equal to its own mass, the water into which the ice melts will exactly replace the volume that was displaced by the ice.

In other words, the water level will remain the same. Try it and see.

If the ice caps are floating on the oceans, why wouldn't melting ice caps actually lower sea level?

Part of the answer to this is that they are not floating on water (see below).

If a body of ice that is floating in the ocean (an iceberg, for example) melts, there will actually be a very slight rise in the ocean level due to the fact that the ice will have diluted the salinity of the ocean very slightly, causing the density of the ocean to decrease very slightly. This, in turn, would increase the volume of the ocean very slightly.

I don't doubt the validity of the statements but I would like to know why this situation is different than ice cubes melting in a glass.

The difference lies in the fact that most of the Greenland ice cap rests on land that is above sea-level. Thus, when it melts, all of it is added to the oceans, causing a corresponding increase in volume, and therefore sea-level.

What the writer of the article is careful to de-emphasize is that, even if the predicted warming occurs, the melting of the ice cap would take about 1000 years -a period of time easily long enough to allow the relocation of cities and populations without any attendant societal or economic dislocations.

84 posted on 04/08/2004 4:39:01 PM PDT by derlauerer (The truth of a proposition has nothing to do with its credibility. And vice-versa.)
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To: usurper
The backscatter effect?

That doesn't sound right, but I'm really not sure!

85 posted on 04/08/2004 4:43:29 PM PDT by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: Argus
I think I'll buy an old Amphicar.
86 posted on 04/08/2004 6:14:11 PM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: GulliverSwift
Between the 10th and 13th centuries, Greenland (Why do ya think it was named GREENland?) was warm enough to support farms raising row crops and livestock. The ice, especially in the west of Greenland, receded so far that Vikings and Basques could journey to the farthest north reaches of the Canadian Arctic, hunting seals, walrus and whales. This fact is well-documented in the Icelandic Sagas.

There is absolutely NO documentation that European seacoast cities like Cherborg, Antwerp, Copenhagen, Southampton, Naples or Marsailles experienced any increase in sea level.

More wacko koolaid from the watermelons.

87 posted on 04/08/2004 6:30:02 PM PDT by CholeraJoe (Be an FR monthly donor! We have our own secret handshake.)
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To: mtbopfuyn
Don't get your hopes up. I live in a deep-blue suburb of Boston--but my house is on a hill.
88 posted on 04/09/2004 7:38:53 AM PDT by HostileTerritory
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