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To: CasearianDaoist
If you are sent to a war zonbe and die due to friendly fire, accidents or other necessary operations that go hand in hand with the war...it makes little difference to you or your family, friends and loved ones, how it occurred.

We lost over 54,000 Americans as a result of that war...to me, they are all casualties of war.

I do not doubt the S. Korean figures. When you consider that the capitol, a very densely populated city, was completely overrun and changed hands four or more times, with their soldiers fighting to hold it...it is not difficult to imagine. Look at how many men we lost in the 1860's when Americans fought Americans without the modern implements of war.

Having traveled to that part of the world and worked with and talked to many Koreans regarding the same...I do not doubt those numbers.

It was indeed a horrific war...and we as a people have not paid the homeage to those who fought there that we ought to have, and have therefore not really learned the lessons that they spilt their blood to teach us (IMHO).

What is so sad is that it did not have to end the way it did (or actually, the way it didn't). We had thoroughly beaten the N. Koreans and had it within our power to uterrly halt the Chinese...before they came across...and the planning was in place and ready to be implemented. But our President at the time made an international decision as opposed to an American decision. It costs us another 20,000+ American lives, the hard won victory, North Korea, a stable Asia...and it led to Vietnam and the ultimate build-up of Red China. I believe Red China would have fallen and gone back over to the Nationalists had we made that move. I have not forgotten, and find it almost impossible to forgive Truman to this day because I had uncles and in-laws who fought there, saw it all, and have passed the truth on to me.

Ah...but hindsight is 20-20 and we are in fact left with the conditions we now have. It is for us and the upcoming generations to wade through those conditions, as we are now doing.

Thanks for the reasoned and interesting dialog.

Jeff

31 posted on 04/09/2004 5:21:01 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
We lost over 54,000 Americans as a result of that war...to me, they are all casualties of war.

No those deaths were all over the world, not in Korea. The downgraded figure for US casualties include accidents, so the KIA is even lower. The other 20,000 or so were in other countries all together and not directly a part of that war. We had troops all over the world back then. The DoD made a big deal out of apologizing for this last year. Honestly, you have you fact wrong here. At least about US casualties. As I said I have no real data about Korea's casualties, yu could well be right about that.

Believe me, I am that last person in the world to ever play down the contributions of our vets, this just happens to be wrong data.

32 posted on 04/09/2004 6:13:41 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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