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Alamo movie filled with 'fairy tales'(Group says new film destroys memory of American heroes)
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Posted on 04/07/2004 8:20:37 PM PDT by Cedar

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To: Arkinsaw
Crockett didn't much like his role in the Creek Indian War and that's no secret. Calling it a My Lai massacre is propagandistic in itself, but Crockett didn't care for it much.

I've seen a quote somewhere from his diaries that mentions a Creek village being "shot down like dogs." The Disney version of the Creek War was no doubt rather bowdlerized.

I can also believe that Ron Howard oversteered, swinging the pendulum ridiculously far the opposite way.

41 posted on 04/08/2004 9:55:51 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: kimmie7

Do not let little Texans see this PC hit piece on the gallant defenders of the Alamo. Learning of their courage has inspired hundreds of Medal of Honor winners from Texas in the wars the US has fought for freedom. This is just another attempt by Follyweird to weaken patriotism and love of liberty.

42 posted on 04/08/2004 9:58:22 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Arkinsaw
"Like dogs."
43 posted on 04/08/2004 10:26:03 AM PDT by VadeRetro
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To: Cedar
Here in Phoenix, Arizona the spanish TV channels (33 and 48) are running ads for this movie! They must think it will appeal to Arizona's spanish speaking population.
44 posted on 04/08/2004 11:11:43 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: Captain Peter Blood
That's the point I'm making. This Mexican soldier's diary has been proven to be a forgery. Questions were immediate asked when this diary "appeared". One was: "Would this Mexican Captain have have known who David Crockett was?" Most historians have concluded it was a fake. And like I said, Susanna Dickinson swore she saw Crockett's body lying next to the picket fence between the church and the two story barracks. This is the spot Travis had assigned him.

For them to put this bogus crap in the movie is unforgiveable.
45 posted on 04/08/2004 1:06:40 PM PDT by Terry Mross
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houston and crockett are men to be admired. bowie was no doubt very brave but he was a con artist--he kept selling land that he didn't own. he also illegally imported slaves. these activites were NOT legal. owning slaves was legal, but the slave trade had been outlawed, and selling land he didn't own was just plain crooked.
46 posted on 04/09/2004 11:09:35 PM PDT by drhogan
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To: Cedar
I went and saw this movie tonight, and while it doesn't totally suck, it isn't very good either. My biggest complaint isn't really that this movie is PC, although there was more of that than I would have liked. Before you get all worked up about Crockett being executed after the battle, you should realize that when asked if he wants to beg for his life, he offers to allow the Mexicans to surrender to him and mocks Santa Anna's stature. His death is in know way cowardly. The movie also doesn't give any impression that he surrendered, it is obvious that he is wounded, and the assumption is that Santa Anna ordered his men to take him alive.

My problem with this movie is that whoever shot the final battle needs to go have a long talk with Peter Jackson and learn how to film a battle scene. Watching this movie you would wonder if there even was a battle, it lasts like 10 minutes out of a more than 2 hour movie. Whatever you do, you don't show Davy Crockett, the Lion of the West, club one guy with his rifle and then fade to the next scene. You either show him die in battle, rifle swinging, or if you insist on having him captured you show him kill a damn lot of the enemy first. I think the biggest problem with this movie was that Disney wanted a PG-13 rating. The Alamo just can't be done properly if you have to censor the violence of the final battle.
47 posted on 04/11/2004 12:07:12 AM PDT by LonghornFreeper
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Thank you LonghornFreeper.

I did quite alot of studying on the Alamo and even was lucky to be stationed close enough to visit and read the many books there at the book store.

Crockett was seen many places. Although Mrs. Dickinson saw him dead near the wooden fence, Joe, Travis's Slave, says he fell carrying ammunition to the north wall. Another source has Santa Ana asking were was Crockett's body and was told that his body was found in a small fort or building outside the Alamo.

I have tried to put all that together and came up with this scenario: He might have been wounded when Joe saw him. There were reports of Mexican Calvary killing many defenders as they tried to escape over the south wall and the wooden fence which Crockett defended and which took alot of the enemy lives. If this building outside was a refuge reached by Crockett and some of his men, he might have fought on until being captured there. Then taken to the front of the main chapel, which was adjacent to where the wooden fence was and executed there. Then Mrs. Dickenson might have been seen him there.

Oh well thats how I would have made the movie - Ole Davy kickin ass from one end of the Alamo to the other.

God Bless ya Davy.
48 posted on 04/11/2004 12:46:45 AM PDT by TomasUSMC
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To: Jeff Head
Ditto that .......I can get lied to for free by watching the noooooze !

Too bad they did that to a chunk of history. I was looking forward to seeing the flick as you stated.

Oh well.....Stay safe !

49 posted on 04/11/2004 12:55:11 AM PDT by Squantos (Be polite. Be professional. But, have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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