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"Sheesh...this uprising will be over in a cpl days...this is the extremists Last Hurray....by saturday or sunday...our troops will be standing around with no one to shoot at..."

Let me state my position one more time for the record: You CAN NOT give freedom and democracy to people that don't really want it.

Islam is fundamentally not compatible with any kind of democracy we in the West would recognize. One day, perhaps in a 100-200 years or longer, Islam will have modified itself as means of avoiding total destruction. In the meantime, these Muslims in Iraq are not willing to fight for the vision of freedom and democracy Bush is trying to deliver to them.

Yes, this uprising might be over in a couple days - but there will be another and another and another. Have much more evidence do you need to figure out that Iraqi's are flat out not willing to fight for the vision we are offering?

America can not make these people accept a tolerant, democratic government. I know many people can't seem to figure this out, but the entire world just isn't as "enlightened" as we are. Combine a backward people and a gutter religion, and you've got a recipe for chaos that America can never solve.

For the record, I detest the leftist anti-war loons and the entire democratic party. I support Bush and will continue to. But I do not agree with Bush's notion of establishing a Islamic democracy in Iraq. It will never work, and all the advisors that told him it would should be fired.

We should have went into that country, killed Saddam's government as retribution for violating the ceasefire agreements and for shooting at our planes everyday, grabbed up whatever WMD's existed - and then got the hell out while we were still viewed as liberators and hero's by most Iraqi's.

Longbow