[justshutupandtakeit]

These armchair quarterbacks and strategists have no perspective at all. Like the RATmedia they exaggerate skirmishes into battles and riots into campaigns. Then want to use weapons and tactics appropriate to battles.

Nor did they pay attention to the President when he told the nation that this would not be quick and simple. Imagine their reactions to real battles or 1942 or 1777 or 1862. Geez.

[oceanview]

pay some attention to the politics behind this - this "Bush's Vietnam" mantra is beeing bolstered by this, the media and the Dems are all in lock step. you say this is a skirkish, and it reality you are likely correct. but the real war is not going on in Fallujah - the real war is going on here in America against the left, the Dems, and the media. That's the war we run the risk of losing if we don't act decisively to crush this quickly.