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Senator Orrin G. Hatch: Provoking a Split Within Conservatism Again
Newsmax.com ^ | 04-05-03 | Weyrich, Paul M.

Posted on 04/05/2004 8:10:07 PM PDT by Theodore R.

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At last the truth about Orrin G. Hatch!
1 posted on 04/05/2004 8:10:09 PM PDT by Theodore R.
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2 posted on 04/05/2004 8:12:06 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Don't be a nuancy boy)
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To: Theodore R.
What a wonderfully refreshing and right on article!
3 posted on 04/05/2004 8:15:13 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (John Kerry is the Democrat's Bob Dole)
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To: Theodore R.
Demonizing Hatch, particularly via somebody like Scaife, is misguided. Hatch tries to be a political realist, who, alas, has made some serious misjudgments, particularly in connection with balkanizing the marriage laws, which would rapidly collapse like a house of cards. To suggest that Hatch is some closet fifth columnist liberal however, is quite silly. Putting folks into boxes is something that one in general should resist. Just address the merits of the issues at hand, and leave the personalities out of it, unless their demonstrated bad faith, and false pretenses, is clear and convincing.
4 posted on 04/05/2004 8:20:48 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Weyrich seems to be trying to generate a GOP circular firing squad.
5 posted on 04/05/2004 8:22:23 PM PDT by Doctor Stochastic (Vegetabilisch = chaotisch is der Charakter der Modernen. - Friedrich Schlegel)
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To: Utah Girl
Do you have any inclination to wade into the muck and the mire here?
6 posted on 04/05/2004 8:22:55 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Theodore R.
I have to agree with everything Paul has written about Hatch. When reviewing all the decades I've been involved in politics, I can't recall a greater disappointment to my conservative nature than the inconsistent, curious career of the senator from Utah.

In my salad days, he appeared to be a shining new knight in The Cause. Now in my oat bran days, I consider him a worn-out, befuddled Don Quixote, charging on his broken-down donkey at all the wrong windmills.....and scarcely realizing he no longer knows (or cares) what The Cause really is.

Leni

7 posted on 04/05/2004 8:24:19 PM PDT by MinuteGal (Paradise is not lost ! You'll find it May 22 aboard "FReeps Ahoy 3". Register now for our cruise.)
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To: Doctor Stochastic
Weyrich has a certain unpleasant splenetic quality about him. JMO.
8 posted on 04/05/2004 8:24:22 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
Oh Torie, come on.

Hatch is nothing but a whore. He is as without core beliefs as John Kerry. The fact that he is a Republican is for nothing but expediency. If it took him becoming a Democrat to keep his power, he would do so. The Democrats own Hatch like a rat in a cage. You cannot leave personalities out of this, as Hatch has been a consistent enemy to Conservative progress. He is a member of the do-nothing-so-we-can-maintain-friendships old-boy network for years.
9 posted on 04/05/2004 8:31:45 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Theodore R.
...and a little bit about Sen. Arlen Specter, D-PA.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F
10 posted on 04/05/2004 8:31:52 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F (Never forget: AFP and AP were right there to film the mutilation of our men. And Kos cheered em on.)
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To: Theodore R.
What a terrific idea.

Let's have Republicans bashing Republicans in a presidential election year. (/sarcasm)

I am sure the Democrats couldn't be happier.
11 posted on 04/05/2004 8:31:52 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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Ah Yes, the Hatch-Specter Alliance..... too bad their in the wrong party. That big tent is killing us.
12 posted on 04/05/2004 8:33:07 PM PDT by GeronL (Hey, I am on the internet. I have a right (cough, cough) to write stupid things.)
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To: Theodore R.
Thanks for the article.
I've been very disappointed with Hatch. He and Bob Dole seem to be similar in their approach. I used to get really ticked off at Dole the way he felt he had to say something good about his political enemy. "I have so much respect for the honorable Senator, blah, blah, blah." He should have been saying how much contempt he felt for the person. And Hatch has always been a weak spot in the Senate. His wimpy way has always sickened me.
13 posted on 04/05/2004 8:33:29 PM PDT by discipler
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To: Pukin Dog
I am sure you would be happier with a Democrat Congress.

If it weren't for the derided "RINO-s" (justified or unjustified name calling), the Dems would have a majority in the Senate.
14 posted on 04/05/2004 8:33:48 PM PDT by FairOpinion (If you are not voting for Bush, you are voting for the terrorists.)
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To: Torie
Weyrich has a certain unpleasant splenetic quality about him

Shoot the messenger?

15 posted on 04/05/2004 8:34:35 PM PDT by GeronL (Hey, I am on the internet. I have a right (cough, cough) to write stupid things.)
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To: Pukin Dog
I don't think your opinion is "fair and balanced." Did you listen to Hatch when he was blasting Dems for filibustering judicial nominees, and viewed it as unprecedented and toxic? I think the man has his own loadstar, and it is a principled one. As I say, he sometimes fails in his judgments. Only I get all the judgments right, except when I don't. And there you have it.
16 posted on 04/05/2004 8:35:18 PM PDT by Torie
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To: GeronL
Shoot the presentation. The guy would suck in sales.
17 posted on 04/05/2004 8:35:58 PM PDT by Torie
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To: Torie
To suggest that Hatch is some closet fifth columnist liberal however, is quite silly. Putting folks into boxes is something that one in general should resist.

Spoken like a true RINO. This article is the best example I've ever seen of why Hatch is an such a terrible conservative.

18 posted on 04/05/2004 8:39:23 PM PDT by ClintonBeGone (John Kerry is the Democrat's Bob Dole)
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To: Torie
The article explains the Hatch phenomenon well.

Hatch is a perfect Conservative in front of the cameras. Only when he is expected to deliver on his rhetoric does he fall short. WAY short. He fails not only in his judgments, he fails in his actions.
19 posted on 04/05/2004 8:39:54 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: ClintonBeGone
You no doubt are used to it now. It's amazing how this site puts up with me. :)
20 posted on 04/05/2004 8:40:20 PM PDT by Torie
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