THE PROOF THAT THIS IS THE "FACE OF CHRIST"

London Mirror ^ | April 3rd, 2004 | David Edwards

[stubernx98]

If this is true, then he kinda looked like John Kerry. Hmmmm.

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[missyme]

I don't know about that picture, it looks like a very Old Man not a man of 33 yrs but then again do we have any idea what people truly looked like 2000 yrs ago?

[hole_n_one]

(I COULD NOT GET THE PICTURE TO SHOW THAT IS ON THE London Mirror SITE?)

[Maria S]

2 Corinthians 5: 7

[missyme]

Great! Thank You! as I said this looks like a very Old Man

[MHGinTN]

Bite yer tongue!... er, your fingers.

[Unknowing]

Blood group AB is the "universal receiver," i.e., can take a transfusion from any other type, right? Blood group O is the "universal donor." Since Jesus shed his blood for us all, it seems logical that Jesus would have type O, not type AB. Yet through His blood all may be received into the Kingdom.

But anyway, why not do a carbon-dating anaysis on the thread which appears to be sewn in the ancient style?

[Agnes Heep]

I believe the image on the Shroud may have been formed inadvertently when a piece of linen was used to cover a stone image and remained in proximity to the stone for a prolonged period of time. Ionizing radiation from the naturally-occurring radioactive material found in many kinds of rock might have provided the radiation source. The Byzantine history of the Mandylion provides a reasonably good scenario for how such a thing might have come to pass, but I haven't the time or energy to go completely into it right now. Whatever the case, the Shroud is not your garden-variety relic, and I think it a very big mistake to perceive of it in that way.

[cvq3842]

I would suspect that people aged much more quickly back then - shorter life expectancies, and living in a hot climate.

I have also read how somehow baccteria or other contaminants in the fibers tested could have thrown off the carbon dating.

[rogueleader]

Interesting.

To me the image looks more like Medieval art, either painting or sculpture, than it does a man.

[muawiyah]

You rightly point out that there may be other methods for producing a photographic negative like the one on the Shroud of Turin.

On the other hand, no one has come up with any Medieval or earlier photographic negatives except for this one.

[rageaholic]

The other issue is the image is one dimensional, as an artist would paint it, with a foreshortened nose etc. When a cloth is wrapped around a three dimensional object such as a face, it touches the sides of the face, the cheeks and temples. When unwrapped it would be wider than the face and result in a distorted image. My opinion-- this is a fake.

[Bobby777]

exactly ...

[Socratic]

"If this is true, then he kinda looked like John Kerry. Hmmmm."

Some might use this as an argument that it is fake.

[missyme]

Agreed...I think we as modern people tend to visualize what we think of a man who would be 33, Sinless, Divine
G-d in human flesh. I have a vision in my mind what Jesus might look like but I know I am totally off base....

[EggsAckley]

There is a group of people who believe that the Shroud image IS actually an early photographic image, and that it was produced by Leonardo da Vinci. They believe that the face is the face of Leonardo himself, exposed onto the fabric via an early "pin hole" camera, or camera obscura, as it was called then.

Colorful theory, but..........just a theory.

[In_25_words_or_less]

Probably been pointed out dozens of times, and I'm sure true believers have an explanation at the ready. . .

But the shroud image is two-dimensional, like a photograph or a painting.

Had it been draped over or wrapped around a head, when laid flat the image would be "panoramic" and distorted, like a projection map of the globe. The ears would be out to the side and visible as in a straight-on view, and so forth.

Notice how slender the face appears in the shroud image. Even a slender face would appear wider when the shroud was laid flat, if the image was formed (as claimed) while draped over the face, or wrapped around it.

[GigaDittos]

You know, this doesn't look like a 33-year old.