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To: LWalk18
That may be but the majority of goys I've known who married jews converted usually at the insistence of the jew's parents.

I have a lot of experience in Israel (in fact I have an invitation to a wedding of two Israelis in NYC on my desk in front of me) and I've found the ones I know most often married other jews. I can only think of one jew out of the 50-100 I've known who married outside the faith to someone who did not convert and the one I do know was a young girl whose jewish parents abandoned her....yes, another rather unusual thing for a jewish family.

However, I'm 46....that is at least one generation away from marrying age generation and the younger jews likely are behaving as you say.

Btw...I always admired Jewish marital preservation....I think it's fine and is ok for anyone who feels that way.

Feeling otherwise is obviously okk too i suppose.

(that reminds me of the DNC commercial where the gay guy is complaining about "they want to tell me who I can marry" on MTV...lol)
449 posted on 04/03/2004 7:56:05 PM PST by wardaddy (If we don't nut up quick as a nation, we'll be foraging for the eggs of the sooty tern soon enough)
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To: wardaddy
You're a bit all over the map on this thread. That's OK, but I am not sure what your bottom line is.

Here is how I see it. The die is cast. America is going to become less white. Indeed, without robust immigration, America's "virtu" (I am using the term in the Greek manner) over time I suspect would degrade. Immigration, and the makeover of America, time and again, ever stronger and more robust, is part of the American story. In any event, even if one has angst this time, because this time it is different, there is no stopping the train. The trick is to make the train end up at a favorable station.

As for American Jews, and intermarriage, the stats I have read is that the rate of assimilation is catastrophic for those wishing to preserve a Jewish qua Jewish identity and demographic. About a third of Jews in each generation lose their Jewish identity via their kids and grandkids. The absolute number of Americans who identify themselves as Jewish in America is slowly declining, despite some Jewish immigration from abroad.

450 posted on 04/03/2004 8:13:19 PM PST by Torie
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