America no longer white, united, English-speaking

The Miami Herald ^ | 02 April 2004 | Patrick J. Buchanan

[cyborg]

As long as I don't see you gushing over old stuff on Antique Roadshow.

[A Jovial Cad]

I wouldn't hold my breath on that one. That's been the tactic throughout thread, the "drive-by smear" and then on to something else.
They simply don't want to debate this issue honestly. Thanks for continuing to call them to account on this kind of tactic. I think some folks got lost on their way to Demo Armpit/Underground this afternoon...

[FITZ]

Sounds an awful lot like Mexico --- there you see the wealthy elites surrounded by a lot of brown servants --- but Mexico is in serious danger of a revolution if they don't rid themselves quickly of some of their excess servants.

[iconoclast]

He is in the economic vein of Juan Peron, like it or not.

Again, that is your OPINION.

You specifically said "Buchanan's hero's, the nationalist/socialist Juan Peron". Now show me where Pat ever cited Peron as one his heroes.

How often do you get away such cheap, baseless smears when people don't call you on them?

You're the type that should be banned by Jim, but I won't hold my breath.

[Dane]

The Mexicans, Puerto Ricans and Central Americans, etc. coming to the U.S. push for the adoption of THEIR language as an offical tongue in the United States, equal with english. They violate U.S. laws consistently (arriving illegally, avoiding taxation, committing crime at an astronomical rate compared to whites). The Arab/Muslim immigrants plan to turn the U.S. into an Islamic state. Hey OK!- so only 40% of them are thumbs up on that one- that's a problem in my eyes. The Chinese are from a nation with which we will probably be in a shooting war within 20 years

I think there is a bit of hyperbole there. When I lived in Florida, the Spanish cable station had commericals constantly on about learning English. Anecdotal maybe, but look at the facts and you will see that English is the lingua franca of the world, especially in business. The French are really pissed about that.

JMO, but I take you above italicized passage as being a little bit strong on Chicken Little.

[BushMeister]

Certainly --- just ask the American Indians --- assimilation doesn't always happen -- sometimes you get pushed onto reservations by the new group who won't assimilate --- they can tell you the dangers of open borders and unlimited immigration and waiting too long to worry about it better than anyone.

Well, precisely. And I imagine that many of the pollyannas on this forum don't know about Aztlan (charming how many hispanic people who are becoming our neighbors have a slogan of "For those inside the race, everything. For those outside the race, nothing"), or don't take seriously the threat of the Islamic conversion of America's blacks, in concert with the immigration of radical Islamics into the U.S.

No, I guess there's nothing different about this influx. So what that we'll be a nation of 500 million people towards the end of the century, and no culture will dominate. Everyone will get along. What will save us? The Constitution. After all, it's protection against any concevable ills, isn't it?

[Polybius]

Right now I'm dabbling in antique revolvers so the old books will have to wait ;>)

Technical Question:........Spanish-American war sword......Best protection for the antique metal?

Renaissance Wax?

[judgeandjury]

It's not as if the issues of illegal immigration isn't being by other people. Other people are talking about it, but Pat Buchanan is a racist nutter.

At least Buchanan provides a counter-balance to racist comments that have been made by Latinos representing organizations such as MALDEF, LULAC, MEChA, etc., in addition to racist comments that have been made by Latino professors at several U.S. universities, in addition to racist comments that have been made by Latinos serving in Congress and in state legislatures around the U.S., and in addition to racist comments that have been made by representatives of the Mexican government.

[Dane]

How often do you get away such cheap, baseless smears when people don't call you on them?

Comparing the economic theories of Peron and Buchanan as being similar is not a smear.

[missyme]

Exactly! but I think the inevitable will happen sooner or later....No one has come up with an answer that works yet.

[cyborg]

Pat Buchanan is not the only person who has been making statements against the racist comments of the groups you listed. He's just the media's favorite for some bizarre reason. Many radio talk show hosts like Sean Hannity, Mike Savage, Larry Elder,etc. has spoken out on this issue.

[BushMeister]

If there is an emphasis on learning english, why are there spanish language signs all over the place? Why do the hispanics resist attempts to have english declared as the only language acceptable in local jurisdictions? Why do they not want english recognized as the national language? Why do the politically hooked-in hispanic groups (which might in this matter represent a minority of hispanic opinion) push for continued bi-lingual education in schools?

Sometimes the sky really is falling.

Good discussion. Gotta run.

[Minutemen]

Here, Here! Down with the invaders- Down with the New World Order!

[cyborg]

Because the government allows those things to happen.

[FITZ]

Have racial/ethnic groups in the past infiltrated a new region and then acted in concert with their stronghold of origin to annex or dominate new territory? Have such groups ever oppressed the former dominant group of the infiltrated region?

Vicente Fox definitely has his own reasons for offering "dual-citizenship" and setting up all the Mexican Consulates where his citizens are expected to go for their identification cards and everything else here in this country. He also insists that no matter how long his citizens live here that they are not subject to American law. The Mexican government is sending over it's textbooks for it's citizens here and many are being taught in all-Spanish classrooms. None of that is about assimilation or learning American values, history or the US Constitution.

[Dane]

At least Buchanan provides a counter-balance to racist comments that have been made by Latinos representing organizations such as MALDEF, LULAC, MEChA, etc., in addition to racist comments that have been made by Latino professors at several U.S. universities, in addition to racist comments that have been made by Latinos serving in Congress and in state legislatures around the U.S., and in addition to racist comments that have been made by representatives of the Mexican government

Oh you mean such Hispanics such as Congressman Henry Bonilla(R-TX) and Jurist Estrada. I never hear a positive word about them from Buchanan.

Buchanan paints with a broad brush and his painting, IMO, is ugly.

[Bernard Marx]

I do not wish to see the US follow the lead of one of Buchanan's hero's, the nationalist/socialist Juan Peron.

Prove that statement. Give a citation showing Pat has ever said anything approving of Juan or Evita Peron.

[janetgreen]

I don't have any problem with Mexicans having jobs as long as they have had enough respect for America to apply legally for citizenship. What I resent is having to pay the bills for medical care, schooling, welfare, housing, food stamps, free breakfasts and lunches, etc. for illegal aliens.

It costs California taxpayers billions to support illegal immigration. Why should American taxpayers be given these bills to pay?

[Missouri]

For the record, I'm quite fond of the Cuban immigration and consider them a plus.

Leaving the Cubans aside, the bottom line is that were importing more Democrats into the country.

Link to F.A.I.R. article

(Snippet)

After losing control of both houses of Congress in the 1994 election to the Republicans, Clinton embarked on a program to reshape the electorate in a way that was more to his liking. In addition to using his considerable powers of persuasion to win back public support, he set about creating a new American public. The administration directed the Immigration and Naturalization Service to mint new citizens in time to vote in the 1996 elections. Under the direct control of Vice President Gore, the Citizenship USA program was tasked with naturalizing as many noncitizens as they could possibly find in time to participate in the next election.

The plan succeeded. Democrats have eliminated the Republicans’ majority in the Senate and have significantly eroded their advantage in the House. An analysis of voting patterns across the country shows that voting by new citizens has been the deciding factor in numerous elections, and in nearly every case, has broken to the Democrats’ advantage.

[Dane]

If there is an emphasis on learning english, why are there spanish language signs all over the place? Why do the hispanics resist attempts to have english declared as the only language acceptable in local jurisdictions? Why do they not want english recognized as the national language? Why do the politically hooked-in hispanic groups (which might in this matter represent a minority of hispanic opinion) push for continued bi-lingual education in schools?

Well a lot of that has to do with liberal courts and teachers unions, but you can't ignore the evidence that English is the lingua franca of the world.