To: VadeRetro
You are right about Creationist, but Liberal? I guess you have to label everyone. The best Conservatives I know are Christians. Without us you would be a lost minority.
To: fish hawk
My impression is that most Christians are not creationists. At any rate, I tend to notice commonalities between how liberals and creationists argue. From the other side, it tends to look like this:
- Your opponent is working for a better world to come (in this life and/or the next).
- You are evil and dumb for disagreeing.
- You do not deserve honest answers. You deserve facile, smirking dismissals, patent dishonesty, or simple shouting down.
- If you protest at your treatment, you will be told that "your side" has been equally dishonest, so all is fair. This logical fallacy of tu quoque--"You're another!"--is applied even if, quite unlike your antagonist, you personally have done nothing but try to honestly explain what you believe and why.
- Even if you're absolutely right, arguments against your position are entitled to consideration on "fairness" and "intellectual diversity" grounds.
A recent post of yours reminded me of the last point in particular.
To: fish hawk
I guess you have to label everyone. Exactly how John Kerry answers when asked "Are you a liberal?"
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