4 From U.S. Killed in Ambush in Iraq; Mob Drags Bodies (Cries: "Where is Bush?")

NYT ^

[Criminal Number 18F]

Ah, you would come up with some weapon the Navy has in its inventory that we have not got. The W-88, effective solution to the thorny problem of governing Fallujah (and Tikrit.. and Ramadi...)

I had the idea that -- seeing as how recently we've been bagging mortar crews with counterbattery in under 90 seconds -- why not keep artillery/air registered on a moving convoy? Then, if we have a vehicle taken out, give the skells, say, four minutes to get to the point where they are doing that retarded man-dancing thing they do, and fire for effect.

That's what I thought when I looked at those mob pictures... want mutilated bodies, Hadji? We'll show you mutilated bodies. Battalion fire for effect, closed sheaf. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat. Give them thirty minutes to start dealing with their own body-parts problem, and repeat. Repeat.

In the same day that the AFP reporters were helping stir this up, they also moved a story on the wire. The poor people that looted the radioactive waste from Saddam's nuclear weapons site that the Israelis bombed in 1981 are now worried about their health problems. And of course, as AFP spun it, it's all the fault of those damned Hebrews... you know, when they're not making matzos out of Arab babies they are doing evil stuff like disrupting whack-jobs' nuclear ambitions... I swear to God, if anybody knows a printer that can make cards, I will have a deck printed with the freaking reporters on them, and will pay the troops a bounty for every scalp they bring in.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[Criminal Number 18F]

the AP reporter who just happened to be on the scene

The AP TV crew and photog Abdel Kader Saadi came later. The AFP reporters, Sabah Arar and Karim Sahib, were there either during the attack (i.e. with the attackers) or immediately after. They were there before the vehicles were burnt or the wounded Americans finished off.

As Trav intimates, they would probably have been better off screwing with the Marines than with Blackwater. Not that screwing with the Marines is a very good idea.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[Allegra]

Time for a SERIOUS CLAMPDOWN on Fallujah.

I imagine that's underway right about now...

[Robert_Paulson2]

the imams driving the people here are driven by Iran?
is that correct?

[boxerblues]

Thanks for the update.

[archy]

Blackwater Consulting/Blackwater Training confirmed, for Blackwater Security Consulting of Moyock, N.C., providing security for food delivery in the Falluja area, according to a statement from the company. The occupation authorities have hired hundreds of private security guards for a range of duties. Witnesses in Falluja said several of the men had Defense Department badges, though such identification is common for contractors working for the occupation. A senior military officer said the four were retired Special Operations forces — three Navy Seals and one Army Ranger. American officials declined to immediately identify the dead men.

[Jet Jaguar]

Thanks for the info on AFP.

[MEG33]

I can only hope so.

[Cindy]

Ditto that.

[Cindy]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1109155/posts

"U.S. TV Avoids Graphic Iraq Images"
AP ^ | Wed Mar 31, 9:36 PM ET | Lynn Elber


Posted on 04/01/2004 1:30:12 AM PST by znix


"U.S. TV Avoids Graphic Iraq Images"

Wed Mar 31, 9:36 PM ET By LYNN ELBER, AP Television Writer

[MEG33]

I am heartsick to think a reporter would encourage this,but am aware of the previous incident with the plane shootdown attempt.They should be thrown out of the country.(other solutions come to mind)

[Cindy]

LINKS OF INTEREST
http://www.truthusa.com/LinksOfInterest.html

[Criminal Number 18F]

the imams driving the people here are driven by Iran? is that correct?

No, not in Fallujah. Fallujah is a mess of Saddamites (these kids in the mob chanted stuff about revenge for Saddam. Tough... he's still in crowbar motel), Islamists, and smugglers who were getting fat on the old regime. All three of these groups hate us for various reasons. But the Islamists here (and the people in general) are of the Sunni branch of Islam, which is the largest branch worldwide, but a minority in Iraq.

The Iranian-sponsored mullahs are Shiites (and the Shiite term for an authoritative mullah is ayatollah. The one who is in the news the most, and the guy that gives us the most lip, is a young buck named Muqtada al-Sadr, whose father was a Shiite ayatollah martyred by Saddam. For all Sadr's publicity-seeking stunts, he has fewer followers than an older imam, Ayatollah al-Sistani. The Shiites are strongest in the south and east (Basra, Nasiriya) but Sadr's strength is in a Shiite slum in Baghdad.

The Shia branch is strong in Iraq and Iran but in decline in most other places and in Islam overall.

The Sunni islamists hate the Shiites even more that they hate us: we're infidels, but the Shiites are worse, heretics. For the historical background on the split between Shia and Sunni Islam, check any net site on Islam.

There are at least five different major Shiite sects, and Lord knows how many Sunni ones. Both branches of Islam encompass sects of every degree from casual, unobservant believers (think Episcopals) to crusading fundamentalists (think Pentacostals, or Puritans in Cromwell's day might be more apt).

They are quite hard to understand, but we have all seen, and borne, the consequences of not understanding them.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[Criminal Number 18F]

U.S. TV Avoids Graphic Iraq Images

I kinda agree with that, Cindy. Kids watch TV. People like my dad, who is squeamish, watches TV. I talked to him today on the occasion of a major business success of his and all he could talk about was these poor wretches in Fallujah.

I expect to have their names later today. That's when it will bother me, when I have the names and capsule bios, even though I already know I don't know them, I know too many like them.

The pictures don't bother me in themselves. I've seen worse, and of course, TV does not transmit the odors. Thank God.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[MEG33]

More here

[Criminal Number 18F]

SERIOUS CLAMPDOWN on Fallujah. I imagine that's underway right about now...

A photo on al-Jihad, I mean al-Jazeera, shows the highway blocked by M-1 tanks and travellers being forced to detour. I can't read the caption. Instead of letters there are all these little wormy squiggles....

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

[Allegra]

I can't read the caption. Instead of letters there are all these little wormy squiggles....

Yeah, I see those things all the time. Even on Coke cans. LOL

[Cindy]

ON THE NET...

http://www.islamonline.net/Discussion/English/bbs.asp?aParID=305&action=topic&aPathID=242

http://www.islamonline.net/fatwaapplication/english/display.asp?hFatwaID=79793

http://forums.gawaher.com/index.php?showtopic=7442&

http://forum.ymuk.net/showthread.php?s=d4c7708cb8457908ce869abac8bd9402&threadid=6911

[Victor]

"...OK. Cool. You said your prayer. Now let's send the low life murderers to God so He can answer it in person....."

Praise the Lord, and pass the ammunition....