[Truthsayer20]

"And that's exactly what the people doing these killings want you to think."

So what are we then hoping to achieve with the Iraq occupation? The whole thing is starting to look like a liberal social engineering project gone wrong.

[Fitzcarraldo]

So what are we then hoping to achieve with the Iraq occupation? The whole thing is starting to look like a liberal social engineering project gone wrong.

It's not the "whole thing" - just a few thugs in a bad part of the country!