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The next step is frustration with W for our being there in the first place. I am resisting being manipulated by the media but I sure am PO'ed at the Iraq MF's that did this!

Little a factor for me, my frustration with W on other matters has already soured me on him. Pulling out of that damn country would be a good idea.

But maybe keep the oil fields. That's what the Democrats think we're there for anyway. May as well go ahead and do it.

"Pulling out of that damn country would be a good idea. "

A marvellous way to snatch defeat out of the jaws of victory.

Jeez, so many 'smart' people are being 'played' here. And here we were, tut-tuting *Spain* for doing the same thing! Get a clue folks. The Fallujah a-holes hate us because they loved Saddam - his tyranny, his evil, his anti-western regime - but most of all because he let the sunnis be on top of that stinkin' hellhole of a country. Well, now the shoe's on the other foot, and the remnants of saddams regime have ONE HOPE LEFT: THAT AMERICA DOES SOMETHING STUPID LIKE WE DID SO MANY TIMES IN THE CLINTON ADMIN AND CAVE IN WHEN THE GOING GETS TOUGH.

They acted disgracefully. It doesnt reflect poorly on us or our military. It was a disgrace to Iraq, though. But the intent was/is to intimidate and to get 'psyched out' is to give the barbarians and undeserved victory.

So, 4 unfortunate souls died. On top of the 500 or so previous in this effort to clean out a terrorist-lovin' WMD-building genocidal maniac. It was a good idea to liberate Iraq, well executed, and has brought tremendous success, despite the cost in lives.

These barbarians -(root:Barber, ie, the muslims who took prisoners of Americans, until our marines stomped into tripoli in 1804) - these barbarians want to intimidate us into caving and running scared. Or excalating it so they can call it a "Holy War" and get more muslims on their side of tyranny and hate.

LET'S NOT PLAY THAT GAME. WE WIN IF WE PLAY OUR GAME, NOT THEIRS.

And our game is to turn Iraq from a tyranny into a democracy that will be peaceful with its neighbors and with us, and will NOT be a haven for terrorists.