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Kerry's Other War Record (John Fund of WSJ targets VVAW Assassin Plot)
Wall Street Journal ^
| March 29th, 2004
| John Fund
Posted on 03/28/2004 10:36:11 PM PST by Sabertooth
Edited on 04/23/2004 12:06:41 AM PDT by Jim Robinson.
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John Kerry mentions his service in Vietnam so frequently that it has become a running joke on the campaign press plane. He seldom if ever mentions his postwar activities as a national coordinator and principal spokesman for Vietnam Veterans Against the War, a group he says he quit in 1971 because he was concerned about its radical agenda. One reason may be that a credibility gap has started to widen over his antiwar history, and he clearly doesn't want to discuss it at length. His campaign is issuing misleading and evasive statements on his antiwar service in a way that would do the Pentagon spinners of the Johnson and Nixon administrations proud.
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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Massachusetts
KEYWORDS: camil; darkplot; deweycanyoniii; fonda; geraldnicosia; hurley; janefonda; johnfund; johnhurley; johnmusgrave; kerry; kerry2004; kerryfbifiles; lipscomb; musgrave; nicosia; phoenixproject; scottcamil; vvaw; wintersoldier
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To: Sabertooth
The assassination of Senators was seriously debated by the VVAW elite in KC in 1971.
In spite of this fact, Kerry only resigned his leadership postition with VVAW, he did not quit the group.
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posted on
03/28/2004 11:07:25 PM PST
by
MamaLucci
(Libs, want answers on 911? Ask Clinton why he met with Monica more than with his CIA director.)
To: Sabertooth
I just sent the WSJ page to our local editorial board asking them to discuss the issue at their next meeting and to write an editorial on the points the author makes in the article. I hope others do the same. Forcing local media to take a stand (even if they take the wrong one) will get the issue to the public and veterans will be less likely to remain charmed and hoodwinked.
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posted on
03/28/2004 11:09:01 PM PST
by
cinnathepoet
(Directly, I am going to Caesar's funeral)
To: Sabertooth
Wow! What a list of resources. Thanks.
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posted on
03/28/2004 11:10:08 PM PST
by
cinnathepoet
(Directly, I am going to Caesar's funeral)
To: Sabertooth
I'll grant you that the break-in and pilfering of the files from Nicosia is problematical and merits a quicker expose,sooner rather than later, but what if Kerry is destroyed prior to the convention in July? A brokered convention looming,or would they keep tarnished goods?
A Hillary anointment, which would be impossible without the bleeding open sore of this denouncement and expose of Kerry,would be ghastly. But it might NOT be Hillary...it could be anyone, ANYONE; some dark horse,none of us have even considered, who might not be all that easy to beat.
To: Sabertooth
14 boxes of files ... is a lot of files.
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posted on
03/28/2004 11:12:27 PM PST
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
To: nopardons
I don't know- given John Kerry's background and others like Dellums they all sound about as evil as Hillary anyway...
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posted on
03/28/2004 11:14:34 PM PST
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
To: piasa
Kerry is as bad as,if not worse than Hillary.
To: nopardons
I'd say worse.
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posted on
03/28/2004 11:16:27 PM PST
by
piasa
(Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge.)
To: Sabertooth
Oh yes, Nixon is orchestrating another records heist from the grave. Next they'll blame GW. Ofcourse any number of people can request the docs. Maybe it is this Kerry SUPPORTERS way of getting rid of even more damning evidence. Midnight bonfire.
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posted on
03/28/2004 11:17:26 PM PST
by
marty60
To: piasa
Soould I,but it's close.
To: piasa
So would I,but it's close.
To: Sabertooth
YeSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!
SO glad this is growing. I don't care as much about campaign strategy as for the need for truth to worm its way up through the moldy past of John F'n Kerry.
Thank you, WSJ!
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posted on
03/28/2004 11:24:11 PM PST
by
Yaelle
To: cinnathepoet
Wow! What a list of resources. Thanks.
You're most welcome. Here's another...
SCOTT CAMIL ARCHIVE -- (John Kerry's would-be assassin colleague from the VVAW)
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Posted by Sabertooth On News/Activism 03/22/2004 6:19:41 AM PST with 35 comments
Various | March 22nd, 2004 In 1971, Scott Camil, a Vietnam Vet who was radicalized by Jane Fonda during the Winter Soldier Investigation, and a subsequent colleague of Senator John Kerry while the latter was the Vietnam Veterans Against the War, was the architect of a proposed VVAW conspiracy to assassinate seven sitting U.S. Senators. The assassination plot was debated at a VVAW conference in Kansas City, on November 12-15, 1971, and a number of eyewitness accounts, as well as FBI files obtained by Kerry biographer under the Freedom of Information Act, have placed Senator Kerry at the Kansas City VVAW conference, despite denials by...
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posted on
03/28/2004 11:30:24 PM PST
by
Sabertooth
(< /Kerry>)
To: Sabertooth; potlatch; ntnychik; devolve; Grampa Dave; BOBTHENAILER
The Boston Globe photo shows Kerry in his Lowell living room watching Nixon on television, January, 1973.
The caption refers to Kerry as a leader of VVAW.
Rumors of Kerry's prior resignation seem much exaggerated.
Kerry and his willing handmaidens wish to have it both ways:
A) It was long, long ago, and does not matter whether he was at a meeting to discuss killing senators;
B) Kerry's service was not too long ago to be a constant, even incessant, theme of his campaign.
I see both his service and his disservice as fair game.
His medals were self-cited, for trivial wounds and the illegal murder of a wounded combatant;
His stateside activities were at the least treasonous (appreciated by Col. Bui Tin et al) and perhaps criminal conspiracy.
The agency of Hurley as memory gestapo is a fatal case of doth protest too much.
The theft a la Cameron Kerry of the documents is icing.
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posted on
03/28/2004 11:40:43 PM PST
by
PhilDragoo
(Hitlery: das Butch von Buchenvald)
To: Sabertooth
Please put me on your ping list. Thanks GrandMoM
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posted on
03/28/2004 11:42:41 PM PST
by
GrandMoM
(GOD is working in secret, behind the scenes even when it looks like nothing will ever change! JM)
To: Sabertooth
My gut tells me those missing documents were destroyed and/or buried near Kerry's Idaho mountain home. Maybe someone should hike up to the area Kerry snowboarded and fell six times.
It is only a hunch. Nothing more.
All the dirt on Kerry should be kept under wraps until it can have an effect, maybe late September or early October.
The dems and media have harped on Bush's vietnam-era record since the democratic primaries began, and now what happened 35 years ago appears to be the main focus of Kerry's campaign. People are sick of it, and it has lost any potency it ever might have had. We should be careful that our mud doesn't have time to drip off before the elections.
To: Sabertooth
Nice to see your and other Freepers' work on this bearing fruit and the message spreading--good job. The strategy you suggest of nailing down the key facts and hammering at them seems sound. I'd need to go back through the threads on this to collect the specifics in one place, but if it hasn't been done already, one thing I'd suggest is compiling in a list format:
1. A complete list of all attendees of the meeting and their eyewitness statements.
2. A list of the Kerry campaign's statements on the meeting, their internal contradictions, and their contradictions with other witness statements.
3. A list of assassination targets named at the meeting, correlated with known/suspected threats and attempts against those targets.
Also, when hammering home these facts, IMO another key is to keep pounding at the nagging questions of why Kerry didn't report what he knew about this plot, why he continued associating with the VVAW once he became aware of the plot, and why he hasn't been forthcoming about the chronology of his relationship with the VVAW after he became aware of the plot. Kerry's failure to answer these questions satisfactorily makes him look like a suspect without an alibi.
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posted on
03/29/2004 12:28:52 AM PST
by
Fedora
To: Sabertooth
Is it just me, or is participating in a vote to assassinate Senators a really bad thing?
Why isn't Kerry in jail?
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posted on
03/29/2004 1:14:17 AM PST
by
highlander_UW
("Any fool can criticize, condemn and complain and most fools do." Benjamin Franklin)
To: Sabertooth
Bbbut! He was for the Vietnam War before he was against it. It's a nuanced thing.
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posted on
03/29/2004 1:22:51 AM PST
by
AmericanVictory
(Should we be more like them, or they like us?)
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