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To: Flightdeck
Of course, what created the Higg's field and why did it find that energy plateau? I'd say God did it.

Define your concept of "God."

I get into a lot of trouble here, but the problem is in defining the concept. People rarely understand this aspect.

How did you come by this concept, "God"? What does it really mean? Have you ever 'experienced' it? Or is it just a floating abstraction that has no relation to reality? How did 'God' do 'it?'

To say, "nobody knows" isn't good enough because then you have to admit, you don't know that "God did it."

I will say this one time. I'm not questioning your belief. I'm questioning HOW you know your belief. Until you can answer that, you have nothing really.

95 posted on 04/07/2004 10:38:30 PM PDT by LogicWings
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To: LogicWings
Your questions are important ones, and I can tell you my personal beliefs and HOW I believe them, but they don't satisfactorily explain the birth of the universe any more than the most recent physical theories (which don't even come close). I think "God" is probably more like a network, where each of us is a part of God and the sum of all of us is greater than the sum of each of us. I know that's abstract, but I can tell you why I believe in something at all. I have been conscious and completely aware outside my body. You can research out of body experiences with as much skepticism as you like, but it is real, and there is no conflict with researching it in a laboratory environment with scientific protocols. When this happens to you, you pass the point of BELIEVING to the point of KNOWING that there is existence outside the purely material body. With a lot of practice over the years, I have slowly become a little better at inducing this type of thing, but it is a life-changing experience for someone with little or only moderate belief in an afterlife, as I was. On a side note, I am a research scientist by profession, so no stranger to scientific atheism. But I often note with irony some of my colleagues' fervent belief that nothing exists after death based on a lack of evidence, even though not a shred of evidence exists to support their own strong faith (in nothing).
96 posted on 04/08/2004 8:23:24 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Death is only a horizon)
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