Feds Investigate 'Hate Speech' Incident at UNC-Chapel Hill

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[CindyDawg]

So they don't lecture any more and just send E-mails? Do you have to attend class to pass?

[stands2reason]

The headline is BS --trying to make it sound like the "hate crime" itself is being investigated. And why does it take five paragraphs to actually describe the incident? Maybe they're hoping people won't read that far?

[Mr. Wright]

Gee, I wonder if she would have ever sent a memo stating
that someone was a "black, homosexual, muslim, female?
Don't think so!

[Eva]

When my son was a freshman at ASU, his Eng. Comp teacher let the kids separate into discussion groups for the semester. The next day she told everyone to return to their groups, except my son. She said that she just wanted to try a little experiment for her own personal interest and assigned my son to sit with a group of gays and lesbians, where he had to read essays about things such as first gay sex experience. My son is tall, blonde, athletic looking and a graduate of a Christian high school.

[mlmr]

NO NO ! not black, homosexual, muslim, female

BLACK, HOMOSEXIST, MUSLIM FEMALE

[taxesareforever]

I bet this is the first time an incident like this happened. NOT! So why is the DOE so upset by it now? They have never got involved before. Something stinks.

[Agnes Heep]

Do you have to attend class to pass?

My little girl has been at Chapel Hill for six years now, pursuing a doctorate. She's worked there as an instructor for a number of classes, and has actually encountered situations where she hasn't been allowed to give a failing grade to students caught red-handed at cheating.

[beckett]

"Heterosexist" -- don't ya love it! The bogus term homophobic has a new bogus term to keep it company.

[I_BE_THE_ONE]

My daughter was valedictorian and a national merit scholar. We are North Carolina residents but did not encourage our daughter to go to such a place. She is attending another major state(not in NC) university one of whose graduates gave 20 million to bring in top students based only on merit. Interestingly enough there are four other students there who have her qualifications from NC. UNC is picking from second tier.

What an odd way for a major university to give scholarships. Just be the best applicant.

[Coeur de Lion]

This demonsrates the whole problem with "hate speech." If the concept had been confined to "fighting words" that would've been all fine and good. If someone was using speech in such a way to show absolute disregard for the views or "feelings of others such as:"I'm a supporter of Adolf Hitler and I don't think the Nazi's did enough to wipe out the Jews", that would probably come easily under criticism and no reasonable person would choose to disagree

The problem with the whole concept of "hate speech" is and it's raison d'etre/I> is to force any debate to confine itself to a "politically correct" viewpoint. It's to close off an open "Marketplace of Ideas." Anyone who says differently is a liar or so delusional they have no business teaching!.

It's obvious that this person, who wedged the complain, has her own problems with bigotry, ... and all those thing's that these idiot's claim as their reasoning for why such things should be banned. I wonder what her problem with "a white, heterosexual, christian male" is? Duh!

[feedback doctor]

The bogus term homophobic has a new bogus term to keep it company.

Wait till scientists annouce that they have discovered a gene that causes homophobia!

[Swanks]

They have never got involved before. Something stinks.

No, this is legit. I filed the compliant with DOE, as a taxpayer of NC. Turns out so did others, which, when that happens, gives DOE more leaway, scope and power into an investigation. So they combied all the complaits (minum of 2 maximum of x). Last they talked to me, they were unsure as to if they would begin an investigation - but I could tell from the tone of the voice they were pissed. The very first call back - and the DOE investigator noted he already knew the students name (never release). So he had to force that from the English Chair.

This Dep't is in deep s**t now because of the emberrasment, not to mention time and money for UNC lawyers, etc.

Gotta, say, they (DOE) were very professional and called me 3-4 times for further info and to update me.

What may have pushed this over the edge is the complaint alledges (also) that the same Dep't gulty of the infraction is the same one 'investigating' it. Lastly, DOE has no jursidiction oover religeous descrimintation (the 'Christian' crack; but will review the racial / male comments comments, the threats, and the racist English Dep't cover up of this incident.

At the end of the day, UNC will most likely have to sign off on some processes to insure their racist behavior is put in check. Which must kill them to, have been called on the carpet by DOE, and to have to carry the stigma amd record of an investigation, from now on.

[billbears]

Do you have to attend class to pass?

At Chapel Hill? Doubtful. I work with a young lady that graduated last year from there. Absolutely the most dense human being I have ever met. I try not to carry on a discussion within earshot of her. She'll jump in and every response is textbook liberal speak. And the common sense of a 10th grader. I honestly hope she doesn't truly believe half of what she says.

Carrboro Community College ping!!!

[blam]

"a white, heterosexual, christian male"

Yup. And when we're all gone, you'll have another 3rd world country.

[blam]

"When my son was a freshman at ASU, his Eng. Comp teacher let the kids separate into discussion groups for the semester. "

My son got his PhD (physics) at ASU. He said the professors were a living liberal hell. He almost quit on his PhD and I talked him into sticking with it because he was so close to completion.

[yankeedame]

Crystall apologized to the class Monday in another e-mail, saying her earlier message "crossed a line and inhibited free discussion."

Good grief, that's not an apology for her action(s). It is a explaination -- in the guise of an apology -- for having "crossed a line and inhibited free discussion." IOW, for having been caught.

[blam]

" I filed the compliant with DOE, as a taxpayer of NC."

Excellent! Bravo for you.

[Hildy]

So what did your son do? That's outrageous.

[mykdsmom]

I posted a thread earlier today on this from an article in the News and Observer.

E-mail sparks federal probe (UNC-CH, update to previous thread)

MKM