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To: MarkL
"Why do you so strongly oppose the government's
registering firearms and licensing gun owners?

Every car is registered; every driver is licensed
or should be. Cars are important and dangerous.
Guns are important and dangerous. So what's the
problem with gun registration and owner licenses?"
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It's a tough question because it draws on the everyday example
of automobiles, and most everybody seems to accept state
regulation of cars and drivers. Many pro-gun people have real
trouble answering this question, and some among us have even
surrendered the point.
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Logic and history prove that gun registration and owner
licensing pose grave threats to life and liberty. But we need
to deliver a powerful answer to the question without the social
studies lesson. The answer needs to be a fast effective sound
bite.
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So we are offering the following three-reason package below.
This formula is the "long version." If you need to give a
quicker answer, then just give the first sentence of each
reason. You can deliver the "long version" in 45 seconds -
and the "short version" answer in less than 30 seconds.
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Three Reasons in a Nutshell
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Here is the answer you can give:
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(1) Practically speaking, registration and licensing laws do
not affect criminals, they only affect innocent citizens.
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(2) Fundamentally speaking, citizens in a free society do not
have to get permission from anyone to exercise their right to
self-defense, just as they don't need permission to freely
speak or worship. Licensing and registration schemes require
citizens to get permission to defend themselves, so those
schemes don't belong in a free society.
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(3) Historically speaking, registration and licensing have
been part of "gun control" programs that made possible the
calculated mass murder of between 70 and 170 million people.
Registration and licensing make genocide easier, not harder.
I fight against genocide and I don't want to make genocide
easier anywhere in the world.
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How to Use the Answer
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This answer is only 120 words at the most, so you can memorize
it. It's pretty easy to memorize because it makes perfect sense.
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Why memorize it? Because, when you are challenged, you need
to seize the initiative. A snappy but profound quick answer
gives no opportunity for interruptions. Speed and power are
critically important when the questioner is hostile or you are
being interviewed for radio or television. You don't want to
have to think of the answer - you need to deliver it
immediately.
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After you give the "long version" answer, you can turn the
tables on the questioner. Ask this zinger question:
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"Now that you know the truth about registration and
licensing, how can you support those ideas?"
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Dealing With The Objections
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Objection # 1: "Driving a two-ton car at 60 mph is a privilege,
not a right. Owning a lethal weapon should be considered a
privilege, too."
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Your answer: "Driving a car on tax-funded roads might subject
you to the tax-funded government regulations. Exercising the
right to self defense, however, doesn't depend on tax-funded
resources and should never require anybody's permission."
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Objection # 2: "Gun registration and owner licensing helps
police solve crimes, just like the cars' license plates and
the drivers' licenses."
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Your answer: "License plates and driver's licenses don't
prevent any crimes, they only help track suspects after the
>fact. Serious criminals frequently use stolen cars and plates;
many drive without valid licenses. Likewise, serious criminals
will not be licensed and will use unregistered or stolen guns,
and the tracking feature is worthless anyway if the cops don't
find the gun."
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Objection #3: "You're just paranoid; don't you trust our
government to license and register deadly weapons while
preserving your right to shoot?"
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Your answer: "Wrong question. The government is supposed to
answer to you and me. Why does the government so distrust the
vast majority of decent non-violent firearms owners that it
wants to identify and track every owner and every firearm?"
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24 posted on 03/27/2004 11:58:50 AM PST by B4Ranch (Most Of Us Are Wasting Rights Other Men Fought and Died For!)
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To: B4Ranch
gun registration and owner licenses
Well first of all the license scheme for automobiles were designed for tax collection reasons. LATER it began to be used for criminal investigations.
Second, the ONLY reason it is useful in criminal investigations is because you are required to have a tag out where everyone can read the number. Try solving a crime where an auto was used without a tag number.
A tag would be a bit awkward for a firearm one is carrying. I guess we could wear our "tag" around our neck.
Third: It is the law of the land that "we the people" put into our Constitution. Not so with automobiles. (Maybe it should be though)
Anyway, that is my short response.
38 posted on 03/27/2004 12:29:05 PM PST by GrandEagle
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To: B4Ranch
Objection # 2: "Gun registration and owner licensing helps police solve crimes, just like the cars' license plates and the drivers' licenses."

Side-related issue:
Car license/registrations, IF for the often stated purpose, would be a ONE TIME proceedure/fee, provided no ownership or address etc changes occurred.

How long would it take government to make license/registraion of guns an annual (or more often even) event, and raise the fees, to make it prohibitively inconvienient and expensive to own? How soon would it also require a license to buy ammunition?

A recent posting by a citizen of a foreign country (I don't remember which country) that I read mentioned that he & his guns, ammunition, shooting records, and 'safe storage' are INSPECTED quarterly.

That is FOUR times per year he has to allow his nation's authorities into his home to make sure he still owns the weapons AND AMMUNITION in question; that they are "properly" stored; and that ALL the ammunition is accounted for. He stated that he is a not a dealer; he is a private shooting club member.
80 posted on 03/27/2004 2:50:47 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (The world needs more horses, and fewer Jackasses!)
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To: B4Ranch
Every car is registered; every driver is licensed or should be. Cars are important and dangerous. Guns are important and dangerous. So what's the problem with gun registration and owner licenses?

Except in a few liberal-infested states like California, no license or any other form of credential is required to own a vehicle if that vehicle will not be used on public roads. Anyone--regardless of age or criminal history--is allowed to purchase or own a vehicle, and anyone may operate vehicles on private property with the permission of the propert owner (it used to be, and probably still is, common for children twelve and under to drive cars around on farms). Although in most cases the operation of a vehicle on public roads will require both the vehicle and owner to have government-issued credentials, vehicles may be transported (not under their own power) anywhere without any government credentials. When government credentials are given in any state to operate vehicles, the credentials are honored in all 50 states.

Somehow treating guns like cars doesn't seem so favorable to liberals, does it?

BTW, another difference between firearms and cars is that it is very common for people to leave their vehicles unattended in areas which are accessible to the general public (indeed, vehicles and bicycles are probably the only type of item so treated). Registration can be useful for contacting the owners of vehicles (or bicycles) which have been left somewhere they shouldn't be. Although registration could theoretically serve such a function with firearms, as noted before most people don't leave firearms unattended in areas open to the general public.

94 posted on 03/27/2004 8:53:43 PM PST by supercat (Why is it that the more "gun safety" laws are passed, the less safe my guns seem?)
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