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To: gunnedah
"Those willing to give up a essential liberty to purchase temporary safety deserve, and will soon have, neither liberty nor safety." - Franklin.

The solution to illegal immigration, and I do agree that it is a serious problem, isn't to demand that citizen be legally required to present their "Papers please!" on demand to any cop anywhere on public property.

There are hundreds of opportunities for LE to weed out illegals, but none are being taken, or taken seriously. We could start with demanding proof of citizenship for getting driver's licenses, but many states are going the opposite way, explicitly allowing licenses for illegals. Jobs, getting medical care, picking up prescription drugs, buying or using plane tickets, enrolling at government schools, welfare offices, Socialist Insecurity offices, cashing food stamps at grocery stores, buying tobacco, liquor and guns ... these are examples of federally regulated activities that could easily be modified to require proof of citizenship. Standing on a street corner should not be one of these cases, where proof of citizenship is mandated.

37 posted on 03/23/2004 2:16:59 PM PST by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: coloradan
Proof of citizenship IS already required to buy a gun.

I am a gun dealer and manufacturer, take a look at the form 4473 that firearm buyers fill out. It ask about citizenship status several times!
39 posted on 03/23/2004 3:27:56 PM PST by Richard-SIA (Nuke the U.N!)
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To: coloradan
As a law abiding citizen I have never had a problem answering any question a police officer wished to ask me. I have never had a problem with showing my drivers license or some form of identity if requested. When one tells me to halt I don't run and in general I have no problem with the law. I certainly don't mind taking the time with them and being put out a little to make this country safer.
Some folks want to make it as hard on the police as they can and for the most part do not want to corporate and they are usually the first to scream and holler about where a cop was at when they needed them.
When you have a problem be sure to call a lawyer and get him to remind the person that robs,steals,rapes or mames you that he violated your rights. Remember the person who screams the most and whose rights are protected the most is the criminal most victims are just that. Why do you think they call it the Criminal Justice System?
41 posted on 03/23/2004 5:33:41 PM PST by gunnedah
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To: coloradan
As a law abiding citizen I have never had a problem answering any question a police officer wished to ask me. I have never had a problem with showing my drivers license or some form of identity if requested. When one tells me to halt I don't run and in general I have no problem with the law. I certainly don't mind taking the time with them and being put out a little to make this country safer.
Some folks want to make it as hard on the police as they can and for the most part do not want to corporate and they are usually the first to scream and holler about where a cop was at when they needed them.
When you have a problem be sure to call a lawyer and get him to remind the person that robs,steals,rapes or mames you that he violated your rights. Remember the person who screams the most and whose rights are protected the most is the criminal most victims are just that. Why do you think they call it the Criminal Justice System?
42 posted on 03/23/2004 5:33:57 PM PST by gunnedah
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