[Iscool]

We have to point out that Kerry and Dims are outsourcers and that Heinz made hundreds of millions outsourcing jobs. Democrats want to make the issue one of outsourcing's rightness or wrongness. We're saying....hold on, don't pick on Bush for what you're doing.

Yer sounding like the Democrats...It's pretty tough defending Bush by saying, ok, we know he's a bum, but so are you guys...So we'll stick with our bum...Or, our bum is still better than your bum...

Besides, if Heinz sends their foreign made pickles back to the US, then yes, we're dealing with apples vs. apples...But if they don't there's no argument...

[CompProgrammer]

There is no technical job (engineering, computer science, etc.) that cannot and will not be shipped overseas. We used to say that the Internet had caused a new economy. I believe it has, in allowing massive amounts of technical work to be offshored.

I work as a Java/Web developer for a large American corporation. We need more developers, but our bosses say any new developers must be in India. Our jobs are safe for the time-being, but no new people will be hired and eventually we will all leave through attrition. The whole picture looks very bleak to me. I used to be an IT consultant. You could go from one job to the next with no layoffs in between. Those days seem like they are gone forever.

I believe that we need to put a tariff on all imported goods and services, as has been advocated by Steven Pearlstein of the Washington Post.

BTW, if you're a free trader, tell me which position I can train for that will provide a good income for the years ahead. I already have a MBA and a Bachelors in Computer Science.