To: CasearianDaoist
WE NEED OUR YOUNG PEOPLE TO GO INTO MATH, SCIENCE, ENGINEERING
Hmm.. speaking as a college Senior (who is kicking himself for spending the last 3 years pursuing a MIS degree), not many people I know are going into CS or Engineering because of worries over the job market.. and people who are currently in those fields are switching to other fields. I myself do not plan on playing the IT game, and will be attending Law School next year.. my girlfriend, formerly a mechanical engineering major, read the writing on the wall as well, and will be starting pharmacy school next fall. What will do, as a country, when our native technical base is gone? We cant all be lawyers, managers, and healthcare workers and still expect to remain the superpower we are today.
To: somniferum
Well what will happen is that we will become a third world nation. But my question to you is why do you think that Law or pharmacy will have any more security than IT? They will outsource law research, the main source of advancement for young lawyers. Pharmacies will be done by quite low level people in the future. Plumbing might be a better choice, but in fact if we do not pull out of this globalization of the economy there will not be any real jobs for anyone.
It is a prescription for disaster.
To: somniferum
My oldest daughter is a Freshman at MIT majoring in Computer Science. She got the computer bug like her old man did 30+ years ago. Hopefully she'll be able to find a job when she graduates in 3.5 years. But things aren't looking good.
This whole situation of outsourcing jobs to places like India makes me sick. The companies that do this are just trying to make higher profits. They can still be profitable if they keep the jobs here. But their CEO's and other high ranking officers won't be able to make their $10m/annual salaries and stock options.
When the Auto industry and Textile industry started to outsource their products overseas there at least was a solution to the unemployeed workers (at least for some)....RETRAINING....
So what is our Government offering our outsourced engineers now..RETRAINING....My question is....RETRAIN FOR WHAT? These people already have BS and MS degrees in a Math or Science dicipline. Many of these people have IQ's of the top 1% in the world. Where else do you go?
The latest report the government is spewing, is that when US companies outsource these High-tech jobs it creates more jobs here in the US. TRANSLATION - When BurgerKing outsources it's Software Engineering department to India, they'll be able to hire more burger flippers and fry makers in their stores. THIS IS GOOD FOR OUR ECONOMY?????
Our country as grown in prosperity and wealth because of the oppertunities we've been able to strive for. By letting our tech jobs go overseas, where do we go? What do we have to strive for? People like my daughter who have IQ's of 150 or more...What kind of jobs are they suppose to persue if we let our technical jobs go overseas?
In one study it's estimated that within 10 years over 6.6 million high-tech jobs will be lost to foreign markets. Within 20..almost all high-tech jobs will NOT be in the US.
As for EE majors. Switching from a digital engineer designing compter circuits and boards, it's NOT easy (in fact almost impossible) to switch to designing power systems. Maybe if you're a fresh-out. But NOT if you've been working as a CE for the past 20 years. I know MANY EE majors who are out of work or in a completely different field when Digital Equipment Co. downsized them back in the late 80's and early 90's.
I don't have a problem with high-tech jobs being competing on the Global market.....WHEN IT'S A EVEN PLAYING FIELD...I can't compete with a Engineer in India. Their wages won't even pay the taxes on my home. I can't take that kind of a cut in pay.
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04/05/2004 12:41:08 PM PDT by
MikeInNH
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