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To: Prodigal Daughter
For the faith?, or was this communism against fascism?

Yea, I guess that's why they specifically targeted priests and religious for murder .

Oh, I get it, it's the old "all Jews are not communists, but all Communists are Jews" lie.

Really?! Strange as how I don't recall ever stating or posting anything to that effect. It is a lie, however, to deny "the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews."

From Winston Churchill:
"There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistical Jews.

"In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed, the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses.

"The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people.

"...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian people."
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127 posted on 03/16/2004 2:50:28 PM PST by Francisco
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To: Francisco
In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing.

Why astonishing? Some Jews who had survived the Progroms and the Czars thought the secular communist system was going to be better. The Cossacks were manipulated into "defending their homeland" from Nazi aggression too. But they weren't Jewish, so we never hear about a Cossack conspiracy.

And those Jewish Communists in Hungary terrorized Hungarian Jews too. Instead of just reading La Derrota Mundial, you should expand your horizons and read books like Arkady's Stalin Against the Jews. No seas tan ingenuo.

128 posted on 03/16/2004 3:47:26 PM PST by Prodigal Daughter
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To: Francisco
"...The fact that in many cases Jewish interests and Jewish places of worship are excepted by the Bolsheviks from their universal hostility has tended more and more to associate the Jewish race in Russia with villainies which are now being perpetrated...Needless to say, the most intense passions of revenge have been excited in the breasts of the Russian people." End of excerpt
Unfortunately, this is false. Thousands of Jewish institutions were destroyed adn tens of thousands of Rabbis and Jewish leaders were liquidated by the Communists.
Communists of Jewish descent hate Judaism above all else. Any claim of support for Jews or Judaism are lies mean to divide Jews and Christians and to be a club against Christianity.
I would suggest that you read On the Jewish Question by Marx from which I will quote that last paragraphs
In its perfected practice, Christian egoism of heavenly bliss is necessarily transformed into the corporal egoism of the Jew, heavenly need is turned into world need, subjectivism into self-interest. We explain the tenacity of the Jew not by his religion, but, on the contrary, by the human basis of his religion -- practical need, egoism.

Since in civil society the real nature of the Jew has been universally realized and secularized, civil society could not convince the Jew of the unreality of his religious nature, which is indeed only the ideal aspect of practical need. Consequently, not only in the Pentateuch and the Talmud, but in present-day society we find the nature of the modern Jew, and not as an abstract nature but as one that is in the highest degree empirical, not merely as a narrowness of the Jew, but as the Jewish narrowness of society.

Once society has succeeded in abolishing the empirical essence of Judaism -- huckstering and its preconditions -- the Jew will have become impossible, because his consciousness no longer has an object, because the subjective basis of Judaism, practical need, has been humanized, nd because the conflict between man's individual-sensuous existence and his species-existence has been abolished.

The social emancipation of the Jew is the emancipation of society from Judaism.


I would also suggest that you look up Stalins plans to decimate Soviet Jewry with the "Doctor's Plot".
134 posted on 03/16/2004 6:58:44 PM PST by rmlew (Peaceniks and isolationists are objectively pro-Terrorist)
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