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To: nopardons; Howlin; Jim Robinson; Lead Moderator
OK, I can't believe I'm getting into this gutter. If only your posts and our actual freepmails could be posted, I wouldn't have to. I'm done after this, no matter what is said.

Howlin asked me if/why I was "attacking" you on this thread (check my posting history to see the extent of my "attacks")

You say:

"No, she was supposedly on my side, but sent me a FREEPmail,telling me what I should and should NOT post."

No.
From the beginning, you sent me 3 freepmails trying to get me to ask Jim to pull the thread. I very very politely and apologetically declined each time because I thought the Masons should have the opportunity to answer the attacks on them.

Then, as your posts on the thread became increasingly personal and ... rude... Their frequency and tone overwhelming the debate, I was afraid the thread would get pulled. (Thankfully, at that time, only your tit-for-tat got pulled)

I knew first hand that the masons were trying to maintain a civil debate and represent their position honorably.

So, I asked you in the most self-effacing, polite way I possibly could to "moderate your tone", telling you I hoped you would take my request in the humble and friendly spirit intended. (I will show that to anyone who wants to know how you've misrepresented my request.)

You replied to me with an extremely nasty personal attack, - Outrage, caps, exclamation points, etc...

I let both it and the public attack go without response.

"I assume she didn't like my reply and is now against me. It takes all kinds............. "

All I ever asked is for you to tone down your vitriol ("moderate your tone"). I was not overreacting. I never reported you, yet you had many posts pulled on that thread, were told to knock it off, and last night caused it to be pulled entirely.

Thus your nastiness was rewarded - you got your wish that the thread be pulled by being ... and the rest of us, who had done our best to be civil to keep the thread, lost. So yes, we resent it.

I did NOT want to get into this. But you now have your offenses hidden and everyone is defending you while you totally misrepresent me and the others.

I'm done, and I apologise for the dirty laundry, but the record had to be set straight.
983 posted on 03/15/2004 10:01:20 PM PST by Trinity_Tx (Most of our so-called reasoning consists in finding arguments for going on believin as we already do)
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To: Trinity_Tx
I sent you ONE, count 'em ONE FREEPmail and it was NOT about getting the thread pulled, Truth be known, it was about hitting the abuse button, on someone who had made scathing,baseless attacks And no, NOT on me.

I only attacked with FACTS, FACTS ALONE, when you wrote me a FREEPmail telling me that I should get off the thread and that you KNEW that you were overstepping the bounds, but rattled on some more, about how YOU didn't like my " tone". This is paraphrasing, so don't even attempt to say that I've put words into your mouth.

The antiMasons were hammering away, throwing out personal insults, attacking ALL Masons, living and dead, cherry-picking and blasphemously post scripture, but you attacked me and still are. Well, pet, this is no tea party, once the thread got hauled into the smokey backroom, all gloves came off and now I know just WHO got my awfully innocent, benign posts pulled and they were in response to another's poster's replies to me, that was just catching up with. I was NOT harassing anyone, nor going after them. I was REPLYING TO POSTS DIRECTED TO ME !

You don't like the rough and tumble way I reply? TOUGH! I give back what I get but usually more mannerly and civil, than what's thrown at me.You had NO problem, whatsoever, with anyone on the other side and their posts.But someone on YOUR side? Sheeeeeeeeeeeesh, how FRENCH of you.I, most assuredly would NOT want you on MY side again, in any debate, or anything else, for that matter.

You are a sniveling liar! I use caps to make a point;you don't likes caps? TOUGH! I was more civil, in my last note to you, than you were to me, in your unctuous letter to me.

You aren't sorry about airing "dirty laundry" at all. This is your MO !

You misrepresented EVERYTHING, that took place on that thread.You've lied and had the unmitigated gall to tell the people who KNOW ME WELL,that they don't know what I am like and to imply that they're standing up for me is uncalled for,because I don't deserve it. HOW DARE YOU !

You don't want any "nastiness",but you sure can sling it, in what you imagine to be a "couth" way.

1,058 posted on 03/15/2004 10:50:07 PM PST by nopardons
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