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To: LibertyGirl77
Thank you, thank you

I didn't do anything here except exercise ordinary care and diligence in making sure this wasn't a crock. We get a fair amount of crockery around here, because some people value outrage over having their facts straight.

There was a thread here a year or so ago from some guy who announced that he had "heard on the short wave" that some commie pinko in the South Carolina legislature had just introduced a bill that would repeal the hard-won "must issue" law concerning CCW permits. Basically that law said that unless you were a mental case or a convicted felon, the Sheriff was required to give you a permit.

And now this guy wants to repeal it. Let's get him!

What amazes me is how many people will grab their torch and their pitchfork without even checking to see if this guy knows what he's talking about. By the time I saw this thread, 40 people had already signed up to write to the legislature and the Governor to stop this law.

It so happens that South Carolina is one of the states that has all its legislation on line. So I could actually dig this thing up and see what it said. (So could anyone else. But nobody did.) Yes, it repealed the entire section concerning "must issue" CCW permits. In fact it abolished CCW permits altogether. That last part is key, because the whole purpose of the law was to make it so that no one needed a permit to carry in South Carolina. It was your right as a citizen to carry a weapon, and the state would henceforth have nothing to say about it. That's what the proposed new law did.

I never followed it to see if it passed, but here were a whole bunch of Freepers ready to rain death on this law because some guy had come in here without bothering to check his facts.

So I have been paranoid about that since.

162 posted on 03/14/2004 8:58:14 PM PST by Nick Danger (Time is what keeps everything from happening at once)
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To: Nick Danger; LibertyGirl77; All
"I didn't do anything here except exercise ordinary care and diligence in making sure this wasn't a crock."

I'd like to add my thanks for your research. Far from accomplishing the goal of somehow diminishing Teresa Heinz Kerry's ability to go after GW Bush with her personal fortune, boycotting Heinz products apparently does nothing more than damage a Republican donor (William R. Johnson, CEO of Heinz).

Let's not shoot ourselves in the foot, people!

175 posted on 03/15/2004 5:25:55 AM PST by proud American in Canada
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To: Nick Danger
Nick, I appreciate your gathering and presenting of the information concerning Theresa Heinz's connection to Heinz Corp and how a Heinz boycott is irrational. As a followup I received the following from Heinz via email.

March 15, 2004 Dear xxxxxxxxxx, Thank you for visiting the Heinz website. We appreciate you taking the time to contact us and giving us this opportunity to respond to your email. The H.J. Heinz Company was founded in 1869 by Henry John Heinz, a native of Sharpsburg, Pa. For 135 years, the company has stood for quality, great taste and innovation and today is a global food company whose Chairman & CEO is Mr. William R. Johnson. The company is respectful of all members of the Heinz family because of their connection to our founder and succeeding generations and their accomplishments. The last Heinz family member to be fully involved with the company was H.J. Heinz II, who served as the company's chairman until his death in 1987. Since that time, no Heinz family member has been employed by the H.J. Heinz Company or associated with its Board of Directors. H.J. Heinz II was the father of the late Senator John Heinz, the charismatic politician who was tragically killed in a helicopter accident in 1991. The Heinz Family Endowments - the philanthropic arm of the Heinz family – is chaired by Mrs. Teresa Heinz Kerry. Mrs. Kerry and the Heinz family trusts and endowments are not significant shareholders of H.J. Heinz Company. Neither Sen. John Kerry nor Teresa Heinz Kerry is involved in the management of H.J. Heinz Company. Additionally, there is no connection between H.J. Heinz Company Foundation and the Heinz Family Endowments. Any comments or presentations made by Senator Kerry and Mrs. Heinz Kerry reflect their personal views. Because they are not affiliated with H.J. Heinz Company, they do not speak on behalf of its management or employees. No portion of Heinz product proceeds goes to any political candidate. In fact, Federal election law prohibits corporations from donating to political campaigns. Also it has long been the Heinz company's policy to refrain from commenting on presidential campaigns. We do not communicate consumer comments to any candidates. Thanks again for contacting us and allowing us to address your concerns. Heinz Consumer Resource Center Heinzconsumeraffairs@hjheinz.com

192 posted on 03/15/2004 12:37:15 PM PST by freedom1st
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