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To: Eurotwit
I thought they were going to "strike at the heart of the great satan?".

Since when is Spain the great satan? Why wasnt I informed of this change?
6 posted on 03/11/2004 11:40:34 AM PST by smith288 (http://www.ejsmithweb.com/FR/JohnKerry/)
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To: smith288
Since when is Spain the great satan? Why wasnt I informed of this change?

Ever since the 15th Century when the Spaniards kicked the (Islamic) Moors out.

One of Bin Laden's first tapes after 9/11 mentioned this outrage as a primary motivator for his Crusade (whoops!) Jihad against the West.

And I bet you thought Confederates had long memories.

40 posted on 03/11/2004 11:46:09 AM PST by Martin Tell (I will not be terrified or Kerrified.)
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To: smith288
Since when is Spain the great satan? Why wasnt I informed of this change?

Well, they did stand shoulder to shoulder with The Great Satan in the run-up to the Iraq war.

53 posted on 03/11/2004 11:50:10 AM PST by The G Man (John Kerry? America just can't afford a 9/10 President in a 9/11 world. Vote Bush-Cheney '04.)
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To: smith288
Spain/spanish folks were forced to convert to Islam few centuries ago ....then of course the Muslims were kicked out and almost all converted back to Christianity..

So, this could be a muslim revenge
67 posted on 03/11/2004 11:53:53 AM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: smith288; Eaker
I thought they were going to "strike at the heart of the great satan?".

Turns out the "great satan" strikes back. I guess they are going after "satans" with smaller sticks.

77 posted on 03/11/2004 11:55:28 AM PST by thackney (Life is Fragile, Handle with Prayer)
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To: smith288
Since when is Spain the great satan? Why wasnt I informed of this change?

Spain was Muslim for about about 7 centuries after its conquest by Muslim armies. The Muslims never got over being kicked out by the Reconquesta in the 15th century.

The reinvasion of Spain by Muslims began some years ago through immigration. The military phase has now begun.

86 posted on 03/11/2004 11:57:29 AM PST by stripes1776
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To: smith288
Since when is Spain the great satan?

Might have something to do with the Inquisition. It took Spain 800 years to drive the Mohammedans out of Spain. Some Mohammedans regard this land as rightfully theirs, since the land was once Mohammedan. Once Mohammedan, always Mohammedan. Of course, this could apply to all of Europe up to Vienna, Austria, since this was the high watermark of Mohammedan (Ottoman) expansion.

114 posted on 03/11/2004 12:06:49 PM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: smith288
Since when is Spain the great satan?

Spain has a lot longer and bloodier history with Islam than the USA.

117 posted on 03/11/2004 12:07:13 PM PST by Mike Darancette (General - Alien Army of the Right (AAOTR))
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To: smith288
Why wasnt I informed of this change?

I'll put you on the "great Satan" ping list so you will be in the loop from now on. ;-)

118 posted on 03/11/2004 12:07:18 PM PST by retrokitten (Made with elfin magic!)
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To: smith288
Since when is Spain the great satan? Why wasnt I informed of this change?

Gee, didn't Spain just have it's first new mosque in 500 yrs built somewhere near Granada? Just a coincidence, I'm sure (sarcasm). Move along, nothing to see here....

147 posted on 03/11/2004 12:17:15 PM PST by fortunecookie
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To: smith288
Since when is Spain the great satan?

Nah. They just want it back.

155 posted on 03/11/2004 12:19:03 PM PST by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: smith288
From another Thread.
REpost:
http://64.246.51.45/vb/showthread.php?s=e8cd9271cf964b321472b598ade9961e&threadid=102891

After the end of February º you will be on the receiving end of Al Qaeda

And it will appear that the attack will be a surprise and without previous warning.
The first preemtive attack will be outside of America

America digs its grave from the north; Osama has sworn this in a solumn oath

The images that accompany this message are one of Osama sitting at a desk, two of the WTC in flames,
one of a flyover of NYC, and one of Osama over a blackboard.
The text on the blackboard says
basically that the dates on the message are not correct and the unexpected should be expected;
what is here is there and what is there is here.

My interpretation is that the attack will be before the end
of February and will probably not be outside the US. I suspect CA or Hawaii, but most likely something
from the south, not the north. I may be completely wrong on this - but that's my take on the message.

Please read this in conjunction with the message in the same forum regarding the 100 staircases for
100 militants who will need them in the coming three days. Basically - I'm interpreting this to be something within the next 72 hours.

This would be consistent with the release of the Zawahiri tape today. Historically Zawahiri tapes have preceded an attack on a civilian target by 1-3 days. The list below isn't complete but I think there's enough to discern a pattern. I am still looking for some dates to fill in - i.e. Mombasa.

I also think that there is substantial reason here to believe that something major was averted in December.
Notice all the shoulder taps from Bin Laden and Company but no major attacks.


10 posted on 02/24/2004 12:39:18 PM PST by Calpernia (http://members.cox.net/classicweb/Heroes/heroes.htm)
163 posted on 03/11/2004 12:21:29 PM PST by CJ Wolf
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To: smith288
Since when is Spain the great satan?

Spain has been a reliable ally in the War on Terror.

168 posted on 03/11/2004 12:23:13 PM PST by SkyPilot
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To: smith288
Since when is Spain the great satan? Why wasnt I informed of this change?

Well, Spain did play a major role in saving Europe from the Islamic hordes - both with the Reconquisista that threw the invaders out of Spain inself and then with various wars and battles taken to the Muslim world.

Most notably, Spain was a major partcipant in the battle of Lepanto that helped break most of the Muslim naval threat.

It would later take an Austrian-Polish alliance to stop the Turkish advance on land.

This is all ancient history of course, and while Spain and Poland are American allies, don't overlook historical hatred completely as one of the reasons for Islamist aggression. Osama himself has complained publically about the Reconquisista.
228 posted on 03/11/2004 12:51:20 PM PST by swilhelm73
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