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(BREAKING) ARABIC TAPE AND DETONATORS FOUND IN VAN IN MADRID - SPANISH MINISTER
Reuters ^ | 11 march, 2004 | Skynews

Posted on 03/11/2004 11:38:08 AM PST by Eurotwit

Sky News just reported that a Spanish minister has just announced that an arabic tape (?) and detontator where found in a van in Madrid.


TOPICS: Breaking News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: dareisayalqueada; islamokazisatwork; jihadineurope; madridbombing; spain
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To: Fedora; Grampa Dave; aculeus; swarthyguy; seamole; gaspar
Just before Christmas 1999, ETA planned an attack on the Picasso Tower in Madrid. The American architect of the Picasso Tower was Minoru Yamasaki, who also designed the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center in Manhattan; but it is not clear whether ETA got the idea from Muslim extremists.

Well, I just had to look that one up. Could Osama's rage about being a failed engineer express itself at Yamasaki?

The Mosque to Commerce Bin Laden's special complaint with the World Trade Center.

"...We all know the basic reasons why Osama Bin Laden chose to attack the World Trade Center, out of all the buildings in New York. Its towers were the two tallest in the city, synonymous with its skyline. They were richly stocked with potential victims. And as the complex's name declared, it was designed to be a center of American and global commerce. But Bin Laden may have had another, more personal motivation. The World Trade Center's architect, Minoru Yamasaki, was a favorite designer of the Binladin family's patrons—the Saudi royal family—and a leading practitioner of an architectural style that merged modernism with Islamic influences.

The story starts in the late 1950s, when Yamasaki, a second-generation Japanese-American, won the commission to design the King Fahd Dhahran Air Terminal in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia.

.........As a scion of the Binladin contracting firm, destined to inherit some portion of its vast operations, Osama Bin Laden would certainly have been aware of Yamasaki's Saudi Arabian projects. Indeed, his family may have built them. (Minoru Yamasaki Associates won't say, but the Binladens were involved with almost all royal construction.) While Osama was in college in the mid-'70s, Yamasaki was designing his second generation of Saudi work, and the World Trade Center—then the tallest building in the world times two—came to completion in New York. This period was the high-water mark both for Yamasaki's world reputation and for the Saudis' national construction plan—which in Saudi Arabia must have brought a heightened sense of importance to the World Trade Center.

Having rejected modernism and the Saudi royal family, it's no surprise that Bin Laden would turn against Yamasaki's work in particular. He must have seen how Yamasaki had clothed the World Trade Center, a monument of Western capitalism, in the raiment of Islamic spirituality. Such mixing of the sacred and the profane is old hat to us—after all, Cass Gilbert's classic Woolworth Building, dubbed the Cathedral to Commerce, is decked out in extravagant Gothic regalia. But to someone who wants to purify Islam from commercialism, Yamasaki's implicit Mosque to Commerce would be anathema. To Bin Laden, the World Trade Center was probably not only an international landmark but also a false idol.


241 posted on 03/11/2004 12:59:07 PM PST by Shermy
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To: Dog
"This president has done it wrong every step of the way. He promised that he would have a real coalition. He has a fraudulent coalition."

- Ho Chi Kerry, October 26, 2003

Link

242 posted on 03/11/2004 1:00:25 PM PST by LdSentinal
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To: Mamzelle
Are the Basque in the Pyranees?

Yes, the region bordering France and Spain.

As for the language, surely it is related to something

My "American Heritage Dictionary" says under Basque, "The language of the Basques, of no known linguistic affiliation."

243 posted on 03/11/2004 1:00:32 PM PST by stripes1776
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To: yonif
I completely agree, militant Islam is the force behind all this and al Qaeda is just one major 'militia' in the war.

Whenever an attack occurs, people start talking about al Qaeda. There are many more dangerous groups as Israelis well know. Most of them hate the US.

Beyond that even, one does not have to be a member of any group to be a terrorist operative. There are literally millions of Muslims who have been brainwashed to hate the West. When Osama or Zawahiri put their tapes out to the world, all Muslims hear them, and many long to join the jihad. Spontaneous attacks by small unknown groups or even lone individuals would be seen as part of the overall jihad and welcomed by al Qaeda. As far as I know, there is no license or membership card required to blow up innocent people...one merely needs the martyr mindset and the hate.

245 posted on 03/11/2004 1:00:40 PM PST by Sender ("This is the most important election in the history of the world." -DU)
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To: KSApplePie_two
"Was it close to the time of the first plane hitting WTC? Local time for Spain."

7:30 am local time (Spain), or 2:30 am Eastern time (USA), if I'm not mistaken.

246 posted on 03/11/2004 1:00:43 PM PST by virtude
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To: LdSentinal
Amazing...
247 posted on 03/11/2004 1:01:11 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: stripes1776
re: My "American Heritage Dictionary" says under Basque, "The language of the Basques, of no known linguistic affiliation.")))

!! This has to be one longterm isolated community.

248 posted on 03/11/2004 1:02:04 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Sender
There were 15 bombs.....13 went off ....2 were found.

That is a massive attack.

249 posted on 03/11/2004 1:03:06 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: dubyaismypresident; Lexinom
Since it is now looking like AQ, I'll mention the fact that there are 911 days between 9/11/2001 and 3/11/2004.

Put the dates and time in Excel and subtract to test for yourself
250 posted on 03/11/2004 1:03:20 PM PST by Selene
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To: thackney
Thank you so much :)
251 posted on 03/11/2004 1:03:28 PM PST by Danette (Bush 2004)
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To: Dog; LdSentinal
Can you get us that quote..

Following is the transcript of the Democratic presidential debate in Detroit, sponsored by the Congressional Black Caucus Institute and Fox News. I belive it was Sunday, October 26, 2003

KERRY: Not in the least. In fact, it is absolutely consistent, because what I voted for was to hold Saddam Hussein accountable but to do it right.

This president has done it wrong every step of the way. He promised that he would have a real coalition. He has a fraudulent coalition. He promised he would go through the United Nations and honor the inspections process. He did not. He promised he would go to war as a last resort, words that mean something to me as a veteran. He did not.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A21551-2003Oct26&notFound=true
Search for the phrases or scroll down a ways.

252 posted on 03/11/2004 1:03:58 PM PST by thackney (Life is Fragile, Handle with Prayer)
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To: stripes1776
Herriko--sounding Greco...?.

If you're interested, check out the link

253 posted on 03/11/2004 1:04:16 PM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Mamzelle
http://www.linguistlist.org/~ask-ling/archive-1998.7/msg01047.html
254 posted on 03/11/2004 1:04:59 PM PST by js1138
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To: Dog
Per MSNBC.....13 bombs went off within a half hour time frame.
255 posted on 03/11/2004 1:05:13 PM PST by Dog (Bin Laden your account to America is past due......time to pay up.)
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To: Mamzelle
" As for the language, surely it is related to something. Even Gypsy (or Rom) is related to Sanscrit."

Not even Indo-european...

Try this page, and the home page of the site for further information on the Basque, language, history, etc.. The FAQ page will answer most if not all of your questions..

http://www.cogs.susx.ac.uk/users/larryt/basque.prehistory.html

Nope, it isn't related to anything..

Evidently, the Basque were there before just about everyone else.. (Yes, basically, the Pyranees.)


256 posted on 03/11/2004 1:05:26 PM PST by Drammach (44 Automag.. where are you??)
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To: Selene
Very perceptive.
257 posted on 03/11/2004 1:05:53 PM PST by Lexinom
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To: cajungirl
"This gives me concern for all our allies,,Italy and Britain mostly. I think they will try something there."

I thought about the same myself. Especially Italy, Poland and Britain could be next targets.

It's high time to wage real war against these murderers and extirpate them once and for all.
258 posted on 03/11/2004 1:05:57 PM PST by virtude
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To: Angelus Errare
Thanks for the ping. There's a whole lot of research to be done.
259 posted on 03/11/2004 1:06:11 PM PST by Cap Huff
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To: Mamzelle
As for the language, surely it is related to something. Even Gypsy (or Rom) is related to Sanscrit.

Basque is unrelated to other modern Euro languages except possibly Finn or Hungarian. Even Albanian is straight off the Indo-European root, as is Greek and Latin. Romani would be Indo-European origin if the Romani originally came from the region of India, which maybe they did. The Basque, who knows, they may have been there a very long time.

260 posted on 03/11/2004 1:06:26 PM PST by RightWhale (Theorems link concepts; proofs establish links)
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