[rwfromkansas]

There are always workers looking for jobs.

Big deal.

Employment is wonderful, lower than Clinton's.

It will be an issue, but not a winning issue for Kerry unless some more major losses occur.

[razorbak]

many "outsourced" jobs are going from the rust belt, not overseas, but to the South here in the good old U.S. Most of the South is experiencing an economic boom as a result.

A union friend of mine who works in an Illinois steel plant, once told me he clocked in at 8:00am, starts working at 8:30am, then after a series of one hour and ten minute work spurts broken up by two 1 hour breaks, a long lunch hour, and quitting work at 3:30 [but not clocking out til 4:00pm]---it all added up to three and a half hours of work on an eight hour shift. And this high school grad was getting paid more than I was with a masters degree from college with much better insurance and other benefits. I was stunned. I asked him if it wouldn't mean more job security if the men on each shift worked harder and he casually replied, "maybe, but it might put someone else out of a job."

How long do, or did, American unions expect the above gravy train to last?