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To: Wilhelm Tell
It does seem odd that the government did not have enough evidence to make the charges of insider trading stick, but they were able to convict her of lying about insider trading.

Unfortunately it is not odd at all. Under today's nonsense laws you can be convicted of conspiracy to do something that you did not do. It was the founder's expectation that the jurors would laugh such stuff out of court, but our public school educated jurors go along with the insanity.

108 posted on 03/07/2004 10:37:13 AM PST by Mike4Freedom (Freedom is the one thing that you cannot have unless you grant it to everyone else.)
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To: Mike4Freedom
"Under today's nonsense laws you can be convicted of conspiracy to do something that you did not do."

Actually, this concept has been enshrined in common law for hundreds of years. The reason you can be convicted of conspiracy when you didn't actually DO anything is because at common law, the "crime" of conspiracy is the actual agreement itself. If you agreed to do the crime, and then actually DID the crime, you would be guilty of conspiracy to do the crime, and the crime itself.

This is not a new concept under American jurisprudence.
133 posted on 03/07/2004 12:01:51 PM PST by Henrietta
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