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Actually, I still think Howard Dean would have been a serious challenge if the media and the Clinton smear machine didn't destroy him. I couldn't find a single thing I agreed with Howard Dean about, but he did take a stand and attract a large following of antiwar anti-Washington DC minions. John Edwards is a pitiful debater, and his "Two America's" stump speech was flawed to the core because it ignored the middle class.

Howard Dean ran in the primaries from the far left, but his record doesn't reflect that and he could have easily pulled a Bill Clinton and drifted to the middle for the General election and therefore have a better chance in the Midwest. John Kerry waited until Howard Dean imploded and took up his mantra, the problem for John Kerry is that he is a Liberal to the core and his record speaks much louder than his current day rhetoric