[Amerigomag]

Glad I checked before I went to bed.

Lots of misguided judgments on this thread. Here are the facts as they apply to California whether it fits your opinion or not:

1) Approximately 1/3 of California's budget today goes to support the consequences of illegal immigration over the last 50 years.

2) Until and unless immigration is regulated California can't solve it financial crisis no matter how well its economy recovers. There are simply too many poor and entitled residents being supported by too few productive people.

3) Illegal immigration is wreaking havoc with the California economy because immigrant birth rates are skewing the traditional ratios of poor to self supporting familes with children.

4) Recent immigrants in California are a large net drain on the public infrastructure, estimated at a lifetime average of $9000 for those without a primary education and higher yet as the educational level goes up. Recent immigrants who achieve a post secondary degree are the biggest drain because they almost exclusively enter public service driven by a passion to "help their people">

When you consider that each child in California costs the tax payer about $10,000 annually and the parents of 1/3 of the children in public school pay no state income taxes you can appreciate the burden they create.

5) It matters not what Bush has done or will do to protect our nation from Islamic terror if he allows the Pacific Southwest, and especially California, to be lost to its southern neighbor or brought to economic chaos by the public policies (exportation of poverty) of its southern neighbor.

[Porterville]

Souces?!? Serious, here is you-

1) Green Martians sucked the brains out of 100,000,00 goats and cost the average citizen of Alberta 10 cedar trees.

2)If monkeys aren't stopped from throwing poop at the polar bears, the peacocks will kill the guinea hens.

3)Dogs hate cats, but cats eat less food... uless the dog is a chiuaua and the cat is a Maine Coon.

4)If 4 horse aren't cornered in the stall, the mule will eat all of the apples.

A source, any source would support your argument (and not an Internt poll that has been FReeped)

[Travis McGee]

My advice is to just scroll past the open-borders trolls. They only want to provoke flame wars, to get these bothersome threads deleted so they won't be seen. Don't play their game.