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Kerry Met With Viet Cong And North Vietnamese In Paris In 1971
Congressional Record ^ | March 6, 2004 | John F. Kerry

Posted on 03/06/2004 12:21:15 AM PST by Hon

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To: cake_crumb
"The foresight apparant in all of his actions for the past 30+ years shows that he is calculating, cunning and cold as a stone."

Yep. Remember, he typed his daily heartfelt journal in Vietnam on a typewriter.

He didn't want to take the chance that future journalists and historians wouldn't be able to read his handwriting.

121 posted on 03/06/2004 9:29:05 AM PST by Hon
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To: Hon
"Which was a pretty neat trick in that according to most reports the Swift boats didn't start engaging in combat until two weeks later, when Zumwalt changed their mission."

FOFLOL! Yeah, it sure is a neat trick. Then again, you could practically get a Purple Heart for a paper cut, depending on whom you knew or how much the brass hoped to buck up morale. And we know for a fact that Kerry knew numerous people, very high up on the food chain. This is another reason I want his military records. I'm more interested in those than his medical. The drugs are pretty much a given. He shows the classic mental changes brought on by opium dreams, just like Al.

122 posted on 03/06/2004 9:30:42 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Grampa Dave
I like the "9/10 president" photo... it should be on stickers all over the place this fall. The campaign message in one photo.
123 posted on 03/06/2004 9:32:18 AM PST by tgslTakoma (Fayetteville, NC - 3/20/04 - Help defend US soldiers and families from Reds-led "peace" rioters.)
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To: tgslTakoma
Yeah, take it off now. And you've been had. You're obviously using inferior grade tinfoil. Go with heavy duty, restaurant quality aluminum foil. It's MUCH better for you. No bad side effects.
124 posted on 03/06/2004 9:33:45 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Hon
"Yep. Remember, he typed his daily heartfelt journal in Vietnam on a typewriter."

You know...for years I was actually confused as to whether he had some kind of journalism degree too? Every military branch has it's journalists and somehow, I thought he must have had dual duty. Anybody else have that problem?

125 posted on 03/06/2004 9:37:48 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: tgslTakoma
It is obvious that the lunatic left supporters who hate America and love Kerry, don't want 9/11 to be a campaign issue.

To me, it is the most important issue there is. If Kerry became president, America as we know it would not survive.

I want my sons, grandchildren, nephews, nieces and great nephews and nieces to live a good life. There will be no good life if Kerry is elected.

He is truly the Manchurian Candidate of the dark side.
126 posted on 03/06/2004 9:40:01 AM PST by Grampa Dave (America can't afford a 9/10 Kerry after 9/11.)
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To: Hon
Oh yeah...the obvious explanation for the time frame problem if the time travel explanation seems implausible is that Kerry did some of this stuff, like writing his journal, after his four month stint as professional Vietnam War Hero ®

As with his videos, I believe this to be the real reason he's so afraid to let the public dig into his military record.

127 posted on 03/06/2004 9:42:16 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Just mythoughts
His arrogance is teh largest part of his personality structure, though a blow up is possible somewhere down the line. Unlikely as long as he's under the wing of the Kennedy clan, as he has been all of his life.
128 posted on 03/06/2004 9:43:49 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Hon

Candidate Kerry introduces his proposed secretary of defense.

Michael M. Bates: My Side of the Swamp

129 posted on 03/06/2004 9:44:38 AM PST by Mike Bates (Artist Formerly Known as mikeb704.)
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To: tgslTakoma
Who would benefit from this information coming out now...? Hmmm... Hillary! That's it! Hon is Hillary! The plan is for Hon/Hillary to destroy Kerry's rep just in time for the Dem convention and for Hillary to "rescue" the Dem party from catastrophic implosion.

Kerry should at this point be in total charge of the DNC. Yet, all he can do is cut a puny deal that names three aides to the DNC.

[AP]:"Kerry will name three aides — a communications expert, a senior adviser and a senior strategist — to work at the DNC, essentially serving as his eyes and ears...The Massachusetts senator said he assumed McAuliffe would remain in his post throughout the campaign."

Hillary *is* fully in charge.

130 posted on 03/06/2004 9:58:05 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: All
This is an excerpt from Kerry's loving preserved Vietnam journal as posted by the Boston Globe:

"It's cool now and the evening has closed around you to become full night. The night for once is comforting and you take a coke and some peanut butter and jelly and go up on the roof of the cabin whit your tape recorder and sit for a while, quietly, watching flares float silently through the sky and flashes announce disquieting intent somewhere in the distance. You call down to one of your men and ask him to draft a message to the Admiral in Command of all Naval Forces in Vietnam and also to the Commander of Market Time. IT says "Merry Christmas from the most inland Market Time unit." You hope that they'll court marshal you or something because that would make sense. But the night soothes everything and the people and things that are close to you dart through the mind and bring the only warmth and peace that there is. Visions of sugar plums really do dance through your head and you think of stockings and snow and roast chestnuts and fires with birch logs and all that is good and warm and real. It's Christmas Eve."

http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/journal_day2.shtml

Kerry arrived in Vietnam on December 1, 1968. The Swift boats only began to engage in combat operations (according to reports) two weeks later, so around December 14th.

Notice that Kerry was hoping to be courtmartialed on December 24th, just ten days later.

131 posted on 03/06/2004 10:00:14 AM PST by Hon
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To: kellynla
Thank you for your service.
132 posted on 03/06/2004 10:00:28 AM PST by RightWingMama
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To: FreeReign
I had heard a rumor that Kerry wanted McAwful out and was told by the establishment to go soak his head, McAwful's staying in.
133 posted on 03/06/2004 10:02:49 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: Hon
....Opium dreams.
134 posted on 03/06/2004 10:04:30 AM PST by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions = Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: kellynla
And when you see a man in his fifties, sleeping on a bench, please remember that "but for the grace of God go I." Semper Fi, Kelly

How true. I lost a friend from high school that way. After coming home from VietNam he was never the same. He died sleeping in his pick up under a bridge in my home town. I think of him every time I see John 'effn Kerry open his mouth.

135 posted on 03/06/2004 10:07:27 AM PST by RightWingMama
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To: Temple Owl
ping
136 posted on 03/06/2004 10:09:38 AM PST by Tribune7 (Vote Toomey April 27)
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To: Hon

137 posted on 03/06/2004 10:16:09 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: cake_crumb
I had heard a rumor that Kerry wanted McAwful out and was told by the establishment to go soak his head, McAwful's staying in.

Yes, the Clinton's picked Kerry because he is so gullible and so usable.

The Viet Cong meeting this thread is about is prime example.

138 posted on 03/06/2004 10:25:14 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: All
I am beginning to think that Kerry was treated with so much deference by the (Dem) Senators because he was saying and doing exactly what they wanted him to do. In fact, what he had been paid to do.

Here is an excerpt from an earlier thread I put up on the subject of who paid for the Dewey Canyon rally--during which Kerry spoke before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee:

John Kerry's appearance in DC was financed by Democrat Party fundraisers.

From a quote from the book "Home to War" by Gerald Nicosia, pp. 104-105:

Even worse, the week before Dewey Canyon was to start, there was not a cent left in the VVAW treasury. John Kerry was certainly doing yeoman's service at fund-raising. He had given up his book contract with Random House in order to travel and speak throughout the country on behalf of VVAW; organizing, bringing in veterans, asking for donations -- working sometimes twenty hours a day. But when Phelan had trouble with the park permits, Kerry had to return to Washington to marshal a group of lawyers, and in the end Kerry negotiated many of the permits personally. This accomplished, he returned to the VVAW office, only to receive a phone call telling him that five thousand vets were waiting for their bus tickets to D.C., but no one knew where the money to purchase them would come from.

Kerry immediately got on the phone to some of the biggest Democratic Party fund-raisers in New York and set up a meeting. When it broke up, VVAW was $75,000 in the black, and busfare for at least a few hundred out-of-towners was assured.

Here is quote from the book "Winter Soldiers" by Richard Stacewicz, pg. 242:

According to an FBI memorandum from the Washington office dated April 13, 1971, "VVAW had received fifty thousand dollars from United States Senators McGovern and Hatfield, who... obtained the money from an unknown New York source." (footnote 36)

36. FBI teletype serial number 448092-71, April 13, 1971... FBI archives.

And this from the Boston Globe:

The protests were set for the week of April 20. Kerry spent some of his time at the Georgetown townhouse of his longtime friend George Butler, working the phones, trying to round up veterans. But the real problem was money. Kerry, who was not financially independent despite rumors to the contrary, was supposed to raise money to pay for buses that would transport the veterans.

He called his friend Walinsky, who had run unsuccessfully for New York attorney general and had excellent financial connections. Walinsky arranged a meeting of potential donors at the Seagram Building in New York City. Among those present were Seagram chief executive Edgar M. Bronfman Sr. and about 20 other New York businessmen who opposed the war. Kerry delivered a low-key speech about the importance of having veterans attend the protest. Then the businessmen were each asked to stand and declare how much they would contribute.

"We raised probably $50,000," Walinsky recalled. "It took an hour."

http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/061703.shtml

Did Democrat Fat Cats Make John Kerry Famous? [Including Seagram's Bronfman]

139 posted on 03/06/2004 10:31:11 AM PST by Hon
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To: Hon

140 posted on 03/06/2004 10:32:16 AM PST by SAMWolf (Wedding: A funeral where you get to smell your own flowers.)
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