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To: Abundy
What you are saying is that I cannot find eternal life unless I believe as you do. Right? Therefore as a Christian you and your beliefs are right and I as a Jew am wrong. Correct? So what you mean is that I am doomed to eternal damnation unless I accept as the truth what you do. That's what you mean right?

Can you not see the problem here???

906 posted on 03/05/2004 8:28:15 PM PST by SoCar (Huckabee's "Tax Me More Fund" needs to spread!)
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To: SoCar
"What you are saying is that I cannot find eternal life unless I believe as you do. Right? Therefore as a Christian you and your beliefs are right and I as a Jew am wrong. Correct? So what you mean is that I am doomed to eternal damnation unless I accept as the truth what you do. That's what you mean right?"

Um, there is no problem, unless Christians are right. If Christians are wrong, and Christ is not the Messiah, then you are right--but the Christian beliefs should have no power to threaten you.
911 posted on 03/05/2004 8:35:41 PM PST by Forgiven_Sinner (Praying for the Kingdom of God.)
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To: SoCar
What you are saying is that I cannot find eternal life unless I believe as you do. Right? Therefore as a Christian you and your beliefs are right and I as a Jew am wrong. Correct? So what you mean is that I am doomed to eternal damnation unless I accept as the truth what you do. That's what you mean right?

Yes.

Can you not see the problem here???

No there is no problem here. But you can't realize or understand that there is no problem because you can't understand my position without a similar Faith. Nor do I expect you to understand my position.

I'm not an anti-semite merely because I am a Christian. And while I might believe that Christ is the only means to the Father, I won't be beating you over the head with a Bible. However, if you truly respected my beliefs, you would not have a problem with me saying a prayer for all non-believer's souls from time to time as you would understand that such a prayer comes from a Love of God and His creations.

The problem arises because it appears that you cannot agree to disagree with me. I would prefer that I'm wrong on that, but that's just the way it appears.

Understanding that the written word cannot convey emotion and inflection, if anything I've just written comes across as trite, arrogant or antagonistic I apologize. Truly I did not intend for the words to be construed as such.

916 posted on 03/05/2004 8:45:21 PM PST by Abundy
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To: SoCar
So what you mean is that I am doomed to eternal damnation unless I accept as the truth what you do. That's what you mean right?

Can't speak for others on this thread, but fyi what the Catholic Church teaches is that all salvation is through, with, and in Jesus. The Church does not teach that those who don't know Jesus are inevitably damned, however. We are content with the idea that God is merciful and that his salvation is not absolutely foreclosed from those who love the truth and pursue it conscientiously and with purity of heart. How salvation may come to such people is largely a mystery, but while we declare the substantial impediments facing those who lack the fullness of faith, we do not deny the theoretical possibility that they may be saved. What we do declare OTOH is that no one who rejects Christianity after having been persuaded in conscience of its truthfulness can be saved -- not because God is spiteful but because he's faithful to his own creation of us as images of him posessing freedom to choose between life and death. God being the ultimate truth, whoever knowingly rejects the truth rejects God and his gifts.

943 posted on 03/05/2004 9:16:25 PM PST by Romulus ("Behold, I make all things new")
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