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To: hobbes1
You're SSPX, right? You're hardly objective.
482 posted on 03/05/2004 7:28:13 AM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from an animal shelter! It will save one life, and may save two.)
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To: sinkspur; hobbes1
You're SSPX, right? You're hardly objective.

Guilt by association. Number 4 in sinskpurs tool kit of propoganda as a debating style.

488 posted on 03/05/2004 7:33:14 AM PST by NeoCaveman (New and improved is typically neither!)
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To: sinkspur
Nor are you objective, but at least I tell the truth. And the truth of the matter is, Lefebvre, was ex-communicated for the ordination of priests, outside of the Authority of the Holy See, and that is a schismatic act,but it is a far cry different than being excommunicated for delivering the Sacrament of the Mass, which is always your implication.

Further, the very next day, The Pope himself issued a decree at the end of Ecclesia Dei, which states the following,

6. Taking account of the importance and complexity of the problems referred to in this document, by virtue of my apostolic authority I decree the following:

a) A commission is instituted whose task it will be to collaborate with the bishops, with the departments of the Roman Curia and with the circles concerned, for the purpose of facilitating full ecclesial communion of priests, seminarians, religious communities or individuals until now linked in various ways to the society founded by Archbishop Lefebvre who may wish to remain united to the successor of Peter in the Catholic Church while preserving their spiritual and liturgical traditions in the light of the protocol signed on last May 5 by Cardinal Ratzinger and Archbishop Lefebvre.

b) This commission is composed of a cardinal-president and other members of the Roman Curia, in a number that will be deemed opportune according to circumstances.

c) Moreover, respect must everywhere by shown for the feelings of all those who are attached to the Latin liturgical tradition by a wide and generous application of the directives already issued some time ago by the Apostolic See for the use of the Roman Missal according to the typical edition of 1962.[9]

So it follows logically, that any Bishop not providing an Indult mass, where the demand exists, is in violation of Papal Decree.

Looking at a Map of Traditional Parishes Flourishing in the U.S. that would roughly be damn near Every Bishop in the country.

503 posted on 03/05/2004 7:42:04 AM PST by hobbes1 (Hobbes1TheOmniscient® "I know everything so you don't have to" ;)
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To: sinkspur; hobbes1
"You're SSPX, right? You're hardly objective"

On January 18 of last year, the Vatican Pontificia Commisio Ecclesia Dei made this response to a Catholic's query:

"In the strict sense you may fulfill your Sunday obligation by attending a Mass celebrated by a priest of the Society of St. Pius X."

I have posted the entire letter in the past. No need to do so again. You are either very dense--or just like spreading slander. I think it's the latter.
542 posted on 03/05/2004 8:10:50 AM PST by ultima ratio
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