The War For The Soul Of America
Mayor Jason West
Posted on 03/02/2004 7:32:37 PM PST by Congressman Billybob
Your kind of poppy cock is the yeast in the loaf that destroys a nation.
Typical knee jerk reaction.. I agree with you in part, but you reject it with a 'poppycock' sneer.
You seem to be overlooking the writings of many of the authors of the constitution who plainly stated that this form of government has no chance of lasting unless it is administered by a moral people.
Theirs is an erronious opinion as I see it .. -- History has shown that our constitution works despite the 'immorality' of some men who sneer at it.
Moral people define a healthy society, not perverts and their promoters.
That sentiment is fine with me.. As long as you don't use it to pass communitarian type 'laws'.
miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure miserable failure
You seem to be overlooking the writings of many of the authors of the constitution who plainly stated that this form of government has no chance of lasting unless it is administered by a moral people.
Theirs is an erroneous opinion as I see it .. -- History has shown that our constitution works despite the 'immorality' of some men who sneer at it.
I get the sinking feeling you really believe this.
You have weird 'feelings' about historical facts? How sad.
What right in the constitution isn't being violated at the moment? And what branch of government has remained within it's limitations?
Yep, we have near total political failure at the moment, brought on by those, like you, who sneer at our constitution and want to change it.
This too shall pass.
1. Four judges of the SJC in Mass. rewrote their constitution to require that homosexuals be allowed to marry.
2. The FF&C clause means that married homosexuals will fan out to the other states and file suits demanding that their marriages be recognized there.
Your basic assumption is DEAD WRONG. The Constitution HAS ALREADY BEEN CHANGED, as a result of those two conditions. And only a constitutional amendment can PUT IT BACK as it has been for more than two centuries.
There, is that plain enough so even you can understand it?
John / Billybob
You end your latest screed with this: "leave our constitutional basics as written." You have missed the point, and apparently not heard of either the Massachusetts decision or the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution.
Typical bombast, billy. -- You decree I've missed some point you haven't made.
1. Four judges of the SJC in Mass. rewrote their constitution to require that homosexuals be allowed to marry.
More bombast. -- Judges don't have that power, and you know it, or should.
2. The FF&C clause means that married homosexuals will fan out to the other states and file suits demanding that their marriages be recognized there.
And the States can tell them to take a hike. Perfectly constitutional to do so.
Your basic assumption is DEAD WRONG. The Constitution HAS ALREADY BEEN CHANGED, as a result of those two conditions. And only a constitutional amendment can PUT IT BACK as it has been for more than two centuries.
Capitalizing bombastic words doesn't make your 'argument' billy. -- In fact its a ploy to cover up the fact that you rarely if ever present a rational rebuttal. A lawyer that can't argue the facts is an object of pity, as I see it.
There, is that plain enough so even you can understand it?
Yes indeed, bobby, -- I see that once again you've lost control.. -- And I bet your fans can see it too..
If you cannot see that, you should never go out in public without a keeper.
John / Billybob
Discrimination is FAR from a BAD thing. In fact, I would contend that discrimination is the ONLY means given man to enable his survival!
Of course, since it is imperfect men that we are talking about here, the basis of one's discrimination can most assuredly be flawed.
You end your latest screed with this: "leave our constitutional basics as written." You have missed the point, and apparently not heard of either the Massachusetts decision or the Full Faith and Credit Clause of the US Constitution.
Typical bombast, billy. -- You decree I've missed some point you haven't made.
1. Four judges of the SJC in Mass. rewrote their constitution to require that homosexuals be allowed to marry.
More bombast. -- Judges don't have that power, and you know it, or should.
2. The FF&C clause means that married homosexuals will fan out to the other states and file suits demanding that their marriages be recognized there.
And the States can tell them to take a hike. Perfectly constitutional to do so.
Your basic assumption is DEAD WRONG. The Constitution HAS ALREADY BEEN CHANGED, as a result of those two conditions. And only a constitutional amendment can PUT IT BACK as it has been for more than two centuries.
Capitalizing bombastic words doesn't make your 'argument' billy. -- In fact its a ploy to cover up the fact that you rarely if ever present a rational rebuttal. A lawyer that can't argue the facts is an object of pity, as I see it.
There, is that plain enough so even you can understand it?
Yes indeed, bobby, -- I see that once again you've lost control.. -- And I bet your fans can see it too..
______________________________________
You are so immensely stupid.
There you go again. -- "Congressman", you need to learn to control yourself.
You claim the Massachusetts judges "don't have that power."
Not a claim.. That's a constitutional fact.
Well obviously they have claimed that power. And they will keep that power, by force though not by right, until someone straightens them out.
-- "Not by right" , by George, billy, you finally got my point!
If you cannot see that, you should never go out in public without a keeper.
Ahh but we see just above that I 'had it', and you just 'got it'..
How stupid can you make yourself look? -- Keep posting..
You are parents of a teen aged daughter. She shows up with a boyfriend who has hair down past his shoulders, is a college dropout, has no job and no apparent inclination to get one. Do you discourage her from possibly marrying that person?
Is this discrimination?
You are the parents of a teen aged son. He shows up with a girlfriend who has a half dozen visible body piercings and possibly others not visible. She cheerfully notes that her movie credits include a low-budget release, “Doris Does Duluth.” Do you discourage that relationship?
Being a Parent it would be obvious to me that if either on of these scenarios happened that as a parent i didn't do my job as well as i could have!
I have a Question ! There are two different candy bars one has white chocolate the other has dark chocolate if i prefer white chocolate over dark and choose to eat that candy bar over the dark one is that discrimination ?
Discrimination is about choices all choices weather it be people or products they are choices you as a person make we ALL discriminate everyday over many issues but government and the so called Leaders want to take those choices you make everyday away from you by using discrimination as a divisive and separating word!
Unless we get a handle on this entire problem in the near future, there will be no future for our Consitution....
Well, whether Yale or Havard; Ted may be 'more stupid' by the same slight margin as Kerry is more Liberal. . .more stupid; if only by a hair, because as I recall, Ted had to cheat to pass his exams, so he could graduate.
Now who cheats more, would be an impossible contest among Democrats. Martha Stewart might win this week.
I agree. Impeach the judges & politicians who violate our liberties.. -- And leave our constitutional basics as written.
IF you are against amending the constitution then what is this nation to do with the states that allow gay marriages,
Ignore them. Who cares about how the queers live?
and the ones that dont, what are we to do with the military
No benefits for queer 'spouses'.
what about social security,
No benefits for queer 'spouses'.
the truth is marriage of gays will cause a whole lot of problems.
No the truth is, -- the politicians won't do their jobs to correct the systems 'problems'.
Correct the political system, and leave our constitution alone.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.